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Re: Ask HN: Do you believe aliens are visiting Earth?

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Post by keepamovin »

lowmagnet wrote: post #13

There are countless examples of people finding evidence of ancient peoples who were capable of great engineering feats like pyramids and other structures with simple tools and techniques. To state that aliens must have played in their construction is, to put it mildly, arrogant. (I'm a lot of cases, culturally chauvinistic and/or racist)

Agreed. Why couldn't we simply have had a pre-existing Earth civilization that arose, developed technology/industry, and faded away, leaving only resilient megalithic traces?

Re: Ask HN: Do you believe aliens are visiting Earth?

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Post by keepamovin »

runjake wrote: post #10

I believe alien life exists. I believe basic alien life will be discovered in the next few decades. I believe it's possible that basic alien life has maybe made it to Earth aboard meteorites. I do not believe intelligent aliens have visited Earth. I never saw aliens, alien technology, or evidence thereof in my time in the Nevada desert.

Personally, I think this is the most balanced viewpoint one could have. Openness, without commitment. Highly logical.

Re: Ask HN: Do you believe aliens are visiting Earth?

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Post by keepamovin »

fsloth wrote: post #14

” how can you explain how megalithic 100-ton bricks structures were build by "primitives"” How can you explain we can today build structures that are 800m tall or reroute rivers? Honestly, good ol human craftsmanship multiplied by available labour combined with ’basic’ geometry gets you really, really far. Industrial processes don’t require individual craftmanship because it does not scale with the speed and velocity…

Yes! It's a fascinating conundrum. The giant megalithic "bricks" perfectly fitted and "moulded". Amazing craftsmenship. Entirely possible a forgotten technology was utilized by humans, or by something "before us". Antoher technological Earth-based civlization that wasn't "human" but the only traces of which remain are their megalithcs -- spooky, almost as if they knew they had to leave a stone legacy!

Re: Ask HN: Do you believe aliens are visiting Earth?

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Post by Gys »

> Facts: there's abundance of testimony that would secure conviction in court regarding abductions, encounters (of variosu "kinds"), and "multi-sensor data".

'testimony' as in 'statements from people' should not nearly be enough to convince a court. Pretty sure there are also many testimonies that confirm the existence of trolls, elf's, the devil, reincarnation, angels, big foot, Loch Ness monster, etc.

Re: Ask HN: Do you believe aliens are visiting Earth?

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Post by keepamovin »

jmclnx wrote: post #24

No, I do not see how any ETs could have gotten here, never mind even find the Earth.

That's a good point. However, if we consider "spice" required to navigate the paths between the stars...still, in seriousness...I think the informational field can pull consciousness to our location. Test: you are standing in a field, and suddenly you "feel" someone looking at you. You turn around. A girl on a hill. This reflex is universal, even sniper training emplores "don't stare at target, they will know!". A smaller part of the general pattern: consciousness can sense itself across time/space. So, "they" probably know "we" are here easily.

Re: Ask HN: Do you believe aliens are visiting Earth?

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Post by keepamovin »

satisfice wrote: post #23

I believe it’s an irrelevant question until compelling evidence comes to light. I hope they are visiting. And I hope they are smart enough never to provide compelling evidence of their presence.

This is probably the reality. They appear to be craftily managing the perception of their prescense with a CI-like glee/skill.

Re: Ask HN: Do you believe aliens are visiting Earth?

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Post by 4ndrewl »

keepamovin wrote: post #20
4ndrewl wrote: post #15

No. The timespan of the whole of Humanity will be just a mere blip in the billions of years the universe will exist. The universe is unimaginably big. The spotlight effect is strong here.

But if they were targeting sentient life, then no?

I mean if their blink-of-an-eye existence corresponded with our blink-of-an-eye existence and they could pinpoint us at a distance of 20,000,000,000 _light years_ then sure, why not I guess?
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