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How Charles M Schulz created Charlie Brown and Snoopy (2024)

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Re: How Charles M Schulz created Charlie Brown and Snoopy (2024)

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Post by emmelaich »

gilgoomesh wrote: post #5

> Charlie Brown may have been as popular as any character in all of literature Was he? Maybe this is true inside the US but from outside the US, I've always viewed the character as a peculiarly American artefact – something I was aware of but never really read or watched. This seemed to be reinforced by most major Charlie Brown titles seemingly tied to other American customs like Halloween and baseball.

It was very popular in Australia. Serialised in newspapers for many years. As a kid, our family owned pretty much every Charlie Brown paperback.

Re: How Charles M Schulz created Charlie Brown and Snoopy (2024)

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Post by emmelaich »

kulahan wrote: post #48

Does anyone simply not get how this comic got so popular? I've never read a strip from this comic and once felt anything interesting. It's not a Calvin and Hobbes, it's not a Howard the Duck, it's just... I dunno, cute? I guess people like it because it's kinda cute? I know, I'm being something of a Bah Humbug, but I legitimately cannot see the draw of this comic. It reminds me of Family Circus - no story, just vague…

It touches all the emotions and experiences, somehow being relatable to adults and kids at the same time. Its deepness and universality probably won't be apparent unless you read many of them - preferably the best, maybe one a day.

Re: How Charles M Schulz created Charlie Brown and Snoopy (2024)

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Post by stevekemp »

phkahler wrote: post #35
konfusinomicon wrote: post #9

snoopy is the perfect dog name

Thanks. I never thought about the word "snoop" as part of the name until just now.

Snoop is the name of my favourite characters from the later series of The Wire. I like the idea her nickname came from Peanuts.

Re: How Charles M Schulz created Charlie Brown and Snoopy (2024)

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Post by efnx »

randycupertino wrote: post #46
PakG1 wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's too bad that there are probably meant to be so many example comics in that article, judging from how it's written, and what's really there is just ads where the comics are probably supposed to be. Wonder what happened.

Kokatu was part of Gawker which was killed by Peter Thiel (who went after Gawker media by funding lawsuits against them after they outed him as gay). https://medium.com/@celestineriza/how-peter-thiel-took-down-...

Honest question here - is this getting downvoted because it’s untrue, or something else?

Re: How Charles M Schulz created Charlie Brown and Snoopy (2024)

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Post by stevekemp »

andrewstuart wrote: post #3

I think many people have seen only the commercially exploited peanuts imagery. In fact the comics - especially the older ones are incredibly clever and funny and insightful and there’s long running threads and connections and strong characters. Peanuts the tshirt/hat/poster/cup is crass. Peanuts the comic is genius. It exactly the same with Donald Duck and Uncle Scrooge. The commercially exploited imagery is crass an…

I have approximately one meter of snoopy books - collections of the comic strip - dating from the 70s and 80s. Now and again I read a few strips, but at least once every month I wear my snoopy watch, and seeing Snoopy on the dial makes me smile every time.

I've had more comments on the snoopy dial, and my casio terrorist watch, than any high-end piece in my rotation/collection. I struggle to think of other snoopy merchandise which is common-place, outside watches.

(I asked my eight year old son a while back if he knew the names of some characters from Peanuts, while showing him a couple of the cartoon strips, the only one he knew was Snoopy. I was sad to learn he didn't know the name of either Charlie Brown or Woodstock.)

Re: How Charles M Schulz created Charlie Brown and Snoopy (2024)

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Post by rkomorn »

efnx wrote: post #54
randycupertino wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kokatu was part of Gawker which was killed by Peter Thiel (who went after Gawker media by funding lawsuits against them after they outed him as gay). https://medium.com/@celestineriza/how-peter-thiel-took-down-...

Honest question here - is this getting downvoted because it’s untrue, or something else?

Maybe people wonder what the point/relevance is?

Is it that Gawker had lots of ads, so Kotaku would also have ads?

What's relevant (to this thread) about Thiel killing it?

Re: How Charles M Schulz created Charlie Brown and Snoopy (2024)

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Post by gjvc »

randycupertino wrote: post #26
FiddlerClamp wrote: post #16

Interestingly, Peanuts started with a focus on Shermy and Violet as the 'straight men' and young(er) Charlie Brown as the comic upstart. Snoopy shows up fairly soon, but he doesn't even seem to be CB's pet for the first while. It's fascinating to see Lucy, Linus, Schroeder and Sally grow from tots or babies to the developed characters we know today.

There was a long read article that came out a few years ago called "How Snoopy Killed Peanuts:" https://kotaku.com/how-snoopy-killed-peanuts-1724269473 about how Peanuts lost it's edge once the "cute" popular dog was introduced, whereas prior it used to be more subversive, philosophical/theoretical with darker material.

elmo-ification?!

Re: How Charles M Schulz created Charlie Brown and Snoopy (2024)

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Post by Freak_NL »

BrandoElFollito wrote: post #44

In France we recognize Snoopy and people would call the whole "world" of the comics "Snoopy". "Peanuts" is unknown. I am 55 for the context. We would somehow recognize Charlie Brown, but not by name. The other characters are basically unknown. The reason is that Peanuts was not part of the mainstream comics books we were reading as children. Threre were two kind of them: proper books such as Astérix, and thick "antho…

This goes for much of Europe. 'Peanuts' is hardly known. Everybody over the age of 40 knows Snoopy, mostly by virtue of it being a strong brand with lots of merchandise in the eighties/nineties.

Re: How Charles M Schulz created Charlie Brown and Snoopy (2024)

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Post by baobun »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #41
FiddlerClamp wrote: post #16

Interestingly, Peanuts started with a focus on Shermy and Violet as the 'straight men' and young(er) Charlie Brown as the comic upstart. Snoopy shows up fairly soon, but he doesn't even seem to be CB's pet for the first while. It's fascinating to see Lucy, Linus, Schroeder and Sally grow from tots or babies to the developed characters we know today.

> Snoopy shows up fairly soon, but he doesn't even seem to be CB's pet for the first while. Snoopy shows up in the third strip, by which point the count of total appearances is Patty: 3, Charlie Brown: 2, Shermy: 1, and Snoopy: 1. He appears again in strip 5, but it takes until his third appearance (in strip 8) before he can be identified as Charlie Brown's dog. He remains somewhat ambiguous: strip 8: Charlie Brown i…

I guess Patty part-times as dog sitter

Re: How Charles M Schulz created Charlie Brown and Snoopy (2024)

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Post by anthk »

karlgkk wrote: post #20
analog31 wrote: post #15

I'm a musician, and something I've noticed is that children no longer recognize the "peanuts" theme song.

Newspaper comics haven’t been relevant to anyone 30. By the time you were old enough to read them or care about reading them, smartphones were in the scene.

To me nerdy webcomics were the natural shift, from SBMC to XKCD, and some of them in Spanish such as Bilo y Nano.
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