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Man, if only it were so easy to leave a country that starts wars. It's not as if the average citizen has little control over that or anything.
Same-day upstream Linux support for Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5
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Re: Same-day upstream Linux support for Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5
#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
The frame uses X Elite, their SoC designed or Laptops. These drivers are for mobile Line. Yeah the naming can be quite confusing.
the frame is using a standard mobile snapdragon 8 gen 3 with ARM designed cortex cores.
The 8 Gen 3 also still uses the previous tile-based A7x GPU architecture, while newer chips use the "A8x family of GPUs based on the new Slice architecture".
Re: Same-day upstream Linux support for Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5
#73Re: Same-day upstream Linux support for Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5
#74Woah, this is amazing. I’ve been looking for an ARM Linux machine for a while and ended up about to get M2 Pros in a rack running Asahi. It has been near impossible to get a Snapdragon Elite machine. The IdeaCentre or whatever is 2x the cost / performance and as far as I know is poorly supported. This changes the game. I’d rather use native Linux than Asahi (though the latter is amazing).
How is Asahi not native?
Re: Same-day upstream Linux support for Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5
#75> The Adreno user mode driver (UMD) from Qualcomm Technologies is available as a downloadable Debian package and provides Vulkan 1.4 API support as well as the necessary GPU-related firmware.
Are they already using Turnip / Mesa as their Vulkan implementation or not yet? If not, they should. Valve are using Turnip on their Steam Frame.
That would be another step of working with upstream, besides the kernel driver.
Re: Same-day upstream Linux support for Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5
#76As someone who uses Mobile Linux, I am pretty excited to see this, but I can't help but wonder if this is only a "Business decision" and not necessarily Qualcomm turning over a new leaf for being FOSS friendly: - Their Snapdragon X laptop didn't do very well, and they likely realize an ARM Windows laptop will always be a second class citizen: https://www.techpowerup.com/329255/snapdragon-x-failed-qualc... . - Likewis…
I'd imagine it's purely because not doing it turned out to be PITA in the long term.
As with pretty much all other ARM cpu vendors that pushed for their own kernel fork just to have drivers that did not need to be okayed by mainstream kernel, it was faster iteration to deliver something working to their clients; but it was also PITA to their clients, especially when industry started demanding longer support for their devices
Re: Same-day upstream Linux support for Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5
#77the year of linux on the arm desktop cannot come soon enough also, not to beat a horse that is by now six feet under, but > No delays, no hurry-up-and-wait, no registration. Just go get the new features. i'm so tired
the year of linux desktop is called steamdeck
Re: Same-day upstream Linux support for Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5
#78Has Qualcomm seen the light after working with Valve on Steam Frame? The news that Steam Frame would be running an open source Adreno GPU driver really caught me by surprise.
I just checked: Frame is Gen 3 and the article is Gen 5.
I am really hoping Valve will release a Frame Pro with Elite Gen 5 later :(
Re: Same-day upstream Linux support for Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5
#79Woah, this is amazing. I’ve been looking for an ARM Linux machine for a while and ended up about to get M2 Pros in a rack running Asahi. It has been near impossible to get a Snapdragon Elite machine. The IdeaCentre or whatever is 2x the cost / performance and as far as I know is poorly supported. This changes the game. I’d rather use native Linux than Asahi (though the latter is amazing).
How is Asahi not native?
Presumably OP meant a Linux distro using a normal upstream kernel?
Re: Same-day upstream Linux support for Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
I just checked: Frame is Gen 3 and the article is Gen 5.
I am really hoping Valve will release a Frame Pro with Elite Gen 5 later :(
Maybe eventually, but Valve don't tend to update their hardware very often so it'll probably be a while. They went over 6 years between their last VR headsets, and the Deck is over 3 years old now with no hint of a successor coming (the OLED version is more recent but that was a minor iteration with mostly the same specs).