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Same-day upstream Linux support for Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5

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Re: Same-day upstream Linux support for Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5

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The Qualcomm marketing spec sheet mentions AV1 decoding: https://www.qualcomm.com/content/dam/qcomm-martech/dm-assets... Maybe that part of the driver isn't finished yet?

Or licensed.

AV1 is designed to be license free, so unless they outsourced their driver development to another company I don't think there's anything to license.

Re: Same-day upstream Linux support for Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5

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Or licensed.

Isn't the whole point of AV1 that it's royalty free, as opposed to H264/265/etc?

For the codec, sure. But there can always be more restrictions on the IP block, driver code, etc.

Re: Same-day upstream Linux support for Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5

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Woah, this is amazing. I’ve been looking for an ARM Linux machine for a while and ended up about to get M2 Pros in a rack running Asahi. It has been near impossible to get a Snapdragon Elite machine. The IdeaCentre or whatever is 2x the cost / performance and as far as I know is poorly supported.

This changes the game. I’d rather use native Linux than Asahi (though the latter is amazing).

Re: Same-day upstream Linux support for Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5

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Has Qualcomm seen the light after working with Valve on Steam Frame? The news that Steam Frame would be running an open source Adreno GPU driver really caught me by surprise.

My impression from the emulation folks is that the proprietary drivers are chock full of problems. I suspect it was open source drivers or nothing (i.e., back to an AMD x86 solution like the Steam Deck).

(And I don't think Qualcomm has seen the light - my understanding is that the Turnip drivers are purely reverse engineered.)

Re: Same-day upstream Linux support for Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5

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This makes no sense. Just imagine you would get handcuffed tomorrow. Collateral damage. Blame some guy. Or a gal.

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Man, if only it were so easy to leave a country that starts wars. It's not as if the average citizen has little control over that or anything.

Re: Same-day upstream Linux support for Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5

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Or licensed.

Isn't the whole point of AV1 that it's royalty free, as opposed to H264/265/etc?

Yeah, and the main problem with HEVC/H265 is the patent encumbrance. Very odd, but hopefully it's just coming a bit later.

Re: Same-day upstream Linux support for Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5

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As someone who uses Mobile Linux, I am pretty excited to see this, but I can't help but wonder if this is only a "Business decision" and not necessarily Qualcomm turning over a new leaf for being FOSS friendly: - Their Snapdragon X laptop didn't do very well, and they likely realize an ARM Windows laptop will always be a second class citizen: https://www.techpowerup.com/329255/snapdragon-x-failed-qualc... . - Likewis…

Snapdragon does poorly I think because it's a bet if it works or not. Windows runs things seamlessly other than OpenGL (it can run that too but it's not anything strait forward - needs the gl to dx store app thing) but the other reason is cost. for the premium business laptop most buyers (business) won't budge off Intel even because of the "no one got fired for buying IBM" mentality at the big Enterprises Ive been at.

I will say with my 8 gen 3 snapdragon I'm impressed and also disappointed - stupid thing needs active cooling and I'm pretty sure it's bad enough that it's desoldered or damaged the core or something from heat but also you can't get driver updates for the GPU if you wanted because Qualcomm be the way it do.

Re: Same-day upstream Linux support for Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5

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Does that mean that one will be able to purchase tablets with this chip and replace the OS with Linux? That would be great. As far as I know, there currently are no options for lightweight tablets that support Linux. Not sure how well WSL2 on tablets work. Does anybody here have experiences with WSL2 on tablets like the new Microsoft Surface Pro that uses the Snapdragon X Elite chip?

I have the 8 gen 3 and wsl and hyperv work fine just can't really use x86 binaries / containers / operating systems.
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