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Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by petcat »

drannex wrote: post #70
muratsu wrote: post #51

> Putting aside GitHub’s relationship with ICE, it’s abundantly clear that the talented folks who used to work on the product have moved on to bigger and better things, with the remaining losers eager to inflict some kind of bloated, buggy JavaScript framework on us in the name of progress. This says more about the author than anything else.

That they don't support a nationalistic paramilitary organization that requires its members to be masked and never known by the public so they cant be held accountable? A nationalized KKK is not something to ever support.

I don't care about ICE one way or another, but calling people "monkeys" and "losers" because they're not building a product to your exact specifications is extremely childish.

It seems to me that the real "losers" are the ones spending so much time bitching and moaning about a software platform they don't like.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by lenkite »

GaryBluto wrote: post #97
davidsainez wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not wanting to review and maintain code that someone didn't even bother to write themselves is childish?

Denying code not on it's merits but it's source is childish.

> Denying code not on it's merits but it's source is childish.

No, its pretty standard legal policy actually.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by lenkite »

wewewedxfgdf wrote: post #143
zdw wrote: post #137

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None of this means that you have to be on a specific platform. GitHub as default/mandatory is a single point of failure for the entire tech industry. For an example of another language that avoids being entirely coupled into Github, Go has it's real code hosting and CI interaction on a Gerrit instance, with some sync back and forth to GitHub for a few items. The CI pain and operational blindness mentioned in the Zig…

Yeah but marketing matters for Zig because it's still struggling to get significant mindshare. Zig needs to behave more mainstream rather than less and technical gripes about the source hosting platform should not matter more than marketing.

Marketing and visibility retention will likely be better when people think - hey its the PL that is NOT on github.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by lkey »

simianwords wrote: post #691
pyrale wrote: post #577

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> There is a purity spiral that organizations can enter when they start doing this You are the one summoning that spiral by making a cheap gotcha wrt codeberg using Paypal. The project apparently could and did move because the swith from github to codeberg wasn't that big of an impact, and because, while the new forge is not perfect, they feel the association is less severe. There is no "purity spiral" in that, just…

As I was reading your reply I was half convinced that it was not purity spiral but by the end, even you admit it’s an ethics thing so yeah it is pretty much purity spiral in place. Next they will leave the USA so that they won’t be associated with Trump.

Simian,

You are making an ethical judgment when you say, in essence, that 'it is wrong for businesses (and non-profits) to attempt to act in an ethical manner, aligned with their mission statement'.

Making an ethical argument about the purposelessness and futility of ethics is... interesting to say the least. Please, consider stopping the internet today and instead spend time with a book on ethics that you think agrees with you sensibilities, and then look at this situation again.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by MrBuddyCasino »

otikik wrote: post #676
MrBuddyCasino wrote: post #630

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Charlie Kirk was shot by a center-right guy on September 10, 2025? Luigi Mangione shot the UnitedHealthcare CEO December 4, 2024 and had an anti-capitalist manifesto, was he center right? What about Elias Rodriguez (leftist activist, Israeli Embassy Staff Shooting)? Michael Reinoehl (antifa) who shot Aaron Danielson? "No Kings" Vance Boelter who shot two politicians? "Anti-ICE" Joshua Jahn who killed two detainees an…

I don't think I get your point. Is it that the more someone is left-wing, the more they are likely to be killers? And extrapolating, the more right wing people are, the less likely they are? That is a wild take. My point is that Democrats and Republicans disagree on social policies, but on the economical side they are very close to each other. They are two shades of capitalist policies. Other countries have parties t…

I get the impression that you attempt to discuss in good faith. This is probably as far as we will get.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by jakelazaroff »

Jean-Papoulos wrote: post #468
IshKebab wrote: post #451

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Nobody thinks that. They just don't think that "doing something" gives you an excuse to be an arsehole. Especially if you are hypocritically violating your own CoC.

Yes, it does. Given the choice of having a coworker that's a very nice 0.1x engineer and having a bloody annoying one that's a 10x I'll work with the 10x any day. The internet has evolved such a Newspeak, censor-driven culture, it's sad to see. I want people to be able to tell each other "I think this is shit and here's why".

Given that choice, I would work with neither of them. The world has no shortage of people who are both skilled engineers and not assholes.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by PunchyHamster »

thrwyexecbrain wrote: post #618
PunchyHamster wrote: post #600

The arguments seem... really weak ? They just linked to some random obscure bug and an obscure OS not being supported in containers (and I'd imagine solution being "just bring your own runner"). I have... questions about Zig leadership

Do the arguments have to be strong? I do not think they need to provide any justification. If the core developers decided that they would be more happy (or less miserable) with a different service, then let them.

If they are not why bother ?

"We don't like being hosted under microsoft due their business practices" is perfectly fine argument, no need to nitpick bugs out of bugtracker for justification

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by jorl17 »

networked wrote: post #684
dreamcompiler wrote: post #629

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My old rule about the difference between coding and software engineering: For coding, "it seems to work for me" is good enough. For software engineering, it's not. My new rule: For coding, you can use AI to write your code. For software engineering, you can't.

> For coding, you can use AI to write your code. For software engineering, you can't. This is a pretty common sentiment. I think it equates using AI with vibe-coding, having AI write code without human review. I'd suggest amending your rule to this: > For coding, you can use AI. For software engineering, you can't. You can use AI in a process compatible with software engineering. Prompt it carefully to generate a dra…

100% this.

Just don't expect to get decent code often if you mostly rely on something like cursor's default model.

You literally get what you pay for.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by lkey »

Gatherer3009 wrote: post #695
MildlySerious wrote: post #579

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People protesting ICE do not do so out of political concern, but humanitarian concern. This seems like a minor nitpick as those two are intimately tangled up, but it matters to make the distinction. Standing up for others is not petty or self-serving and that's exactly what this sort of conflation can falsely imply.

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Hello there (new-account){name}{number}! When did you discover that {you, a real person} believed that the only way to protect the {women!} and {children!} was this new agency founded under Bush in the wake of 9/11?

Did you know that all {women!} (over 12 million every year) are actually most endangered by their intimate partners, who are predominately within their same race and class?

Do you think this is more or less concerning than this inflammatory anecdata you've created an account to provide? Do you think that domestic violence prevention (less than 1 billion) should be more or less well-funded than ICE (170 billion)?

> (Under the Trump admin): Teams responsible for violence prevention have been decimated, and a reorganization of the Department of Health and Human Services has eliminated divisions wholesale.

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