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Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by ivanjermakov »

rdtsc wrote: post #628
quirino wrote: post #35

> As a bonus, we look forward to fewer violations (exhibit A, B, C) of our strict no LLM / no AI policy, Hilarious how the offender on "exhibit A" [1] is the same one from the other post that made the frontpage a couple of days ago [2]. [1] https://github.com/ziglang/zig/issues/25974 [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46039274

My favorite of his https://x.com/joelreymont/status/1990981118783352952 > Claude discovered a bug in the Zig compiler and is in the process of fixing it! ...a few minutes later... https://github.com/ziglang/zig/pull/25974 I can see a future job interview scenario: - "What would you say is your biggest professional accomplishment, Joel?" - "Well, I almost single-highhandedly drove Zig away from Github"

> Well, I almost single-highhandedly drove Zig away from Github

If you think about it, Joel is net positive to Zig and its community!

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by megamix »

tonymet wrote: post #287
megamix wrote: post #280

You own the code, you decide where you want to host it. If anyone knows, I'm looking for copyrighted code to deploy my own cloned service to make some money, DM.

Translation ?

I think it would make more sense in a pure AI-topic, but the fact that you can scrape copyrighted content and create services (AI companies) is the original idea behind my comment. I'm not sure to what extent CoPilot was trained on private repositories or other possibly copyrighted code. But if it was e.g, I'm supporting their (Zig's) cause.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by ivanjermakov »

woodruffw wrote: post #34

I don’t have strong opinions about Zig or Codeberg, but I find the self-described status of the latter’s infrastructure concerning[1]: they’re seemingly running faulty hardware in production with limited redundancy, and are actively soliciting more hardware of unknown quality/reliability/provenance from their community. This is cool for a hobbyist project, but it doesn’t scream “stable platform for a post-GitHub worl…

I would like to know the reasoning why Zig chose Codeberg instead of self-hosting something like gitea or forgejo.

Seems to be a safer bet to limit hosting related weaknesses and unknowns, considering move from github being quite disruptive already.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by debugnik »

rixed wrote: post #646
debugnik wrote: post #569

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even after the public call-outs you keep dropping blatant ads for your blog and AI in general in your PRs; there's no other word for them than ads. This is why I blocked you on the OCaml forum already. When I was a kid, every year I'd get so obsessed about Christmas toys that the hype would fill my thoughts to the point I'd feel dizzy and throw up. I genuinely think you're going through the adult version of that: you…

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I assume he's well meaning because I've been seeing his posts for a few months already in the OCaml forums before this pattern of his started, but he's suddenly acting irrational and doubling down. There's no way I can put that nicely, plus he's since deleted his strongest reactions so you can't grasp it fully either.

This is not my first interaction with him outside HN, I already talked to him privately when this was starting to unfold in the OCaml community. Then I gave up, flagged his ads for the mods and blocked him for a few months, but I've kept encountering his drama on github and HN.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by franktankbank »

woodruffw wrote: post #113
jdhendrickson wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And yet the amount of work time I've missed out on from github being down is slightly concerning in retrospect. I imagine the smaller scale of codeberg will actually lead to more uptime despite chaos monkey's best efforts.

The numbers aren’t looking great so far[1]: they’re not cracking 3 9s on their primary service, and their CI/CD isn’t even cracking 2 9s. And these numbers are much better than when I checked a few days ago! (This should not be read to imply that I think that GitHub’s reliability is acceptable; it clearly isn’t.) [1]: https://status.codeberg.eu/status/codeberg

Uptime above 99 I really would only care about the time to get back working. My enterprise experience with Github was multiple days of no work in a year.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by jumpman_miya »

drannex wrote: post #70
muratsu wrote: post #51

> Putting aside GitHub’s relationship with ICE, it’s abundantly clear that the talented folks who used to work on the product have moved on to bigger and better things, with the remaining losers eager to inflict some kind of bloated, buggy JavaScript framework on us in the name of progress. This says more about the author than anything else.

That they don't support a nationalistic paramilitary organization that requires its members to be masked and never known by the public so they cant be held accountable? A nationalized KKK is not something to ever support.

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Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by rererereferred »

coolgoose wrote: post #402

I am by no means an Ai fanboy, but not using translation tools feels odd?

I thought the same but from another perspective, it's better to explain things in a language you dominate and let others translate it to theirs, which might be a good or bad translation; than translate it yourself to a language you don't dominate and the others always get a bad translation. At least in the first case new people can come with better translations.

This is all assuming translation tools always translate things wrong, which they do when it comes to programming terms.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by globnomulous »

joelreymont wrote: post #372
mikelitoris wrote: post #252

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oh god... he has a humongous AI generated PR for julia too https://github.com/tshort/StaticCompiler.jl/pull/180

I had $1000 in Claude credits and went to town. Yes, I made mistakes along the way.

This isn't just "making mistakes." It's so profoundly obnoxious that I can't imagine what you've actually been doing during your apparently 30 years of experience as a software developer, such that you somehow didn't understand, or don't, why submitting these PRs is completely unacceptable.

The breezy "challenge me on this" and "it's just a proof of concept" remarks are infuriating. Pull requests are not conversation starters. They aren't for promoting something you think people should think about. The self-absorption and self-indulgence beggar belief.

Your homepage repeatedly says you're open to work and want someone to hire you. I can't imagine anybody looking at those PRs or your behavior in the discussions and concluding that you'd be a good addition to a team.

The cluelessness is mind-boggling.

It's so bad that I'm inclined to wonder whether you really are human -- or whether you're someone's stealthy, dishonest LLM experiment.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by legobmw99 »

sundarurfriend wrote: post #391
sundarurfriend wrote: post #382

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More context/discussion on this: https://discourse.julialang.org/t/ai-generated-enhancements-... (Honestly, that's a lot more patience than I'd be able to give what are mostly AI-generated replies, so kudos to these folk.)

As an aside, he originally titled the thread "A complete guide to building static binaries with Julia (updated for 1.12)", with no mention of AI. That got me excited every time I opened the Discourse, until I remembered it was this slop. :/

Similar things on the OCaml forums. He has a post titled “Dune: concurrent builds are here!” but really it’s a +967 -100 slop PR that had to be closed
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