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Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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post #93

Coderberg is nice , but their P80s are terrible. And they are hosted in Germany, which adds a few seconds to every remote command . I wouldn’t move business critical repos there . Everyone loses their mind when GitHub goes down once every 2 years . If codeberg provided SLas , they would probably breach them weekly

> when GitHub goes down once every 2 years

Uhh ... More like every two weeks there's some kind of incident.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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post #95

> it’s abundantly clear that the talented folks who used to work on the product have moved on to bigger and better things, with the remaining losers eager to inflict some kind of bloated, buggy JavaScript framework on us in the name of progress. > More importantly, Actions is created by monkeys This writing really does not reflect well on Zig. If you have technical issues with Github, fine: cite them. But leave ad ho…

I agree that the article is strongly worded, and Andrew seems quite angry/frustrated. However, it also gives me flashbacks of how it was back in the golden days, when Linus was calling wannabe kernel contributors idiots who should have died because they "couldn't find their mothers tit to suck on".

Having low patience is a quirk of our nerd culture, and now that the woke season has ended, it seems to be going back to how it has always been!

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

#113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be clear, I’m not knocking it; I also like to reuse old computers. But it’s incongruous with replacing GitHub, rather that being a “weirdo hobbyist” version of GitHub.

And yet the amount of work time I've missed out on from github being down is slightly concerning in retrospect. I imagine the smaller scale of codeberg will actually lead to more uptime despite chaos monkey's best efforts.

The numbers aren’t looking great so far[1]: they’re not cracking 3 9s on their primary service, and their CI/CD isn’t even cracking 2 9s. And these numbers are much better than when I checked a few days ago!

(This should not be read to imply that I think that GitHub’s reliability is acceptable; it clearly isn’t.)

[1]: https://status.codeberg.eu/status/codeberg

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

#114
post #95

> it’s abundantly clear that the talented folks who used to work on the product have moved on to bigger and better things, with the remaining losers eager to inflict some kind of bloated, buggy JavaScript framework on us in the name of progress. > More importantly, Actions is created by monkeys This writing really does not reflect well on Zig. If you have technical issues with Github, fine: cite them. But leave ad ho…

We're past the point of civility when it comes to things like github and M$0FT's involvement.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

#115
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Look at the absolute state of what they are working on. If they are not losers, they are dispirited clock-punchers who don't care about their craft.

Github is migrating from their old infra to Azure. Doing migrations like that is hard, no matter who you are. And from a business and engineering perspective I think it makes sense to leverage the economies of scale of Azure instead of GitHub running their own boxes.

Anyone being forced to use Azure has, at least temporarily until they can find a new job, lost at life, not necessarily through any fault of their own. The poor souls probably also have to use Teams.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Came hear and read “GitHub isn’t a good guy anymore” (not the first time, and seems to be increasing in frequency). It’s like sourceforge all over again. History rhymes with itself, and enshitification has been added to dictionaries for a good reason. As a once upon a time avid slashdotter, makes me wonder if some day, HN will go the same route.

I don't see this site as being the spiritual successor to /. at all, the audience is much more money focused and much less software focused. I miss /. as a low 5 digit user there.

I certainly think that this site has significant overlap with /., though of course not 100% the same. It feels crazy similar to me in fact, like stepping back in time to when I used to post there.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

#117
post #58
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They could also just be people with bills to pay who are maybe faced with—by some accounts—a very challenging employment market. Or maybe due to disabilities they find the process of finding new work difficult or impossible.

Except for the "disabilities" part, which is problematic to classify, wouldn't your description broadly fit the word "losers"? EDIT: I don't understand the downvotes. It's not a value judgement on Github employees, it's about the meaning of the word "loser". Go back to your teenage years. What's a loser? Someone, often through no fault of their own, keep being in a bad situation, having the "short end of the stick".…

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Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

#118
post #95

> it’s abundantly clear that the talented folks who used to work on the product have moved on to bigger and better things, with the remaining losers eager to inflict some kind of bloated, buggy JavaScript framework on us in the name of progress. > More importantly, Actions is created by monkeys This writing really does not reflect well on Zig. If you have technical issues with Github, fine: cite them. But leave ad ho…

The unfortunate truth is that this is where we are as a society. It doesn't reflect poorly on them. It reflects well. They're straightshooters. Theyre not afraid to speak candidly (your definition of candid may differ). They inject humor. You may not like it personally, but it doesn't reflects poorly even if it should. We're at the tail end of a long decline.

pretty sure there was no humor there, just looks poorly upon the author

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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I don't see how the two are related at all. A blanket ban on LLM-generated code is at least arguably a reasonable policy.

> A blanket ban on LLM-generated code is at least arguably a reasonable policy. No, I don't think it is. There's more nuance to this debate than either "we're banning all LLM code" or "all of our features are vibe coded". A blanket ban on unreviewed LLM code is a perfectly reasonable way to mitigate mass-produced slop PRs, but it is not reasonable to ban all code generated by an LLM. Not only is it unenforceable, but…

Banning all LLM code doesn't mean they see things in binary terms like that. There is nuance between "all code must have 100% test coverage" and "tests are a waste of time", for instance, but that doesn't mean a project that adopts one of those policies thinks the middle ground doesn't exist.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Well, integrations are also important. Currently everything works first with Github (Codex, Claude Code, Linear, etc. etc.) so it's just easier. There's also Gitlab for people who don't like Github. Personally for what I do, Github does its job well, and the free private repos are great.
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