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Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by solatic »

8n4vidtmkvmk wrote: post #209
ssivark wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> created by monkeys I don't particularly care for either Zig or Github, but... they do precisely cite the technical issues. That snippet links to a Github discussion comment https://github.com/actions/runner/issues/3792#issuecomment-3... (reproduced below) "The bug in this "safe sleep" script is obvious from looking at it: if the process is not scheduled for the one-second interval in which the loop would return (du…

Then blast the product, not the people who built it.

You cannot divorce a product from the people who built it. The product reflects their priorities and internal group well-being. A different group of people would have built a different product.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by foldr »

ImHereToVote wrote: post #407
Waterluvian wrote: post #151

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Yeah this is pretty embarrassing. I get frustrated with tech all the time! I get it. Grr when Actions feels so irritatingly misbehaved… But how you handle or fail to handle your frustration demonstrates the competence of your character and speaks volumes of what you’d be like to work with.

You would be happier working in a kindergarten. I truly mean that. Think about it. Not trying to be rude.

A lot of us here have real world jobs where people don’t call us losers or monkeys when we fuck up. This isn’t some kind of hypothetical Big Rock Candy Mountain of professional conduct. It’s just what working life is like for a lot of people.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by nromiun »

noodletheworld wrote: post #459
nromiun wrote: post #449

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Oh come on. Micros$$$$ft owns github. We don't need to give some pretend sympathy. When you can afford to have good things, and you're not, don't come crying about getting called bad names. Actions is bad. > I dare anyone who is delusional enough to think they can create something better to actually make something better Actions speak louder than words. Zig is leaving because of the issues they mentioned. > People tr…

So who is complaining that Zig leaving GH is somehow a problem? I just don't like how they have to put out false claims like there are big problems with GH CI and Sponsors.

Zig is leaving GH for another provider. They did not make a better GH and fixed all the problems with it.

You literally have to fill out a form to convince Codeberg that you need CI. I would take GH CI over that.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by usrbinenv »

I thought those of you who said he was being offensive were more or less justified in saying it here. Then I read the post. Literally nothing offensive. Calling someone a code-monkey has been around for as long as I can remember. If throughout your career you haven't questioned yourself "am I a code monkey?" at least once you're either incredibly smart or incredibly stupid.

I can't agree with him more that Github went to absolute shit and I can feel React crap emanating from it without even looking at the code. There's everything in the world wrong with React and I would easily call anyone advocating it a code-monkey in their face. It's not about JavaScript itself - it's about the framework ideas, which are absolute trash. If anyone's offended by a code-monkey, I feel like maybe they should be.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by brodo »

quirino wrote: post #35

> As a bonus, we look forward to fewer violations (exhibit A, B, C) of our strict no LLM / no AI policy, Hilarious how the offender on "exhibit A" [1] is the same one from the other post that made the frontpage a couple of days ago [2]. [1] https://github.com/ziglang/zig/issues/25974 [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46039274

Check out this dude: https://github.com/GhostKellz?tab=repositories

He's got like 50 repos with vibe-coded, non-working Zig and Rust projects. And he clearly manages to confuse people with it:

https://github.com/GhostKellz/zquic/issues/2

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by petersellers »

throwaway150 wrote: post #422
petersellers wrote: post #412

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> But I care about people trying to be morality police and discouraging someone blogging on their own website from writing rudely and writing politically incorrectly This appears to be a strawman. You already admitted he violated the CoC - so he is in the wrong here. I'm not sure what else there is to disagree with - that's been my assertion from the beginning. If he wants to write childish stuff on his own website t…

> You already admitted he violated the CoC - so he is in the wrong here I didn't say that. This is what I said - "But yeah... CoC may apply to him too. So you've got a good point. I don't know if the CoC applies to their website. If you know more and if it does, a violation of CoC should be reported on their issue tracker." Emphasis: "may", "I don't know if", "If you know more".

You did say that. You performed a stealth edit and modified your comment, but fortunately I quoted what you originally said in my previous comment:

> But yeah... CoC applies to him too. So you've got a good point

Since you’ve just proven yourself to not be arguing in good faith, this will be my last response to you.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by Levitating »

johnfn wrote: post #95

> it’s abundantly clear that the talented folks who used to work on the product have moved on to bigger and better things, with the remaining losers eager to inflict some kind of bloated, buggy JavaScript framework on us in the name of progress. > More importantly, Actions is created by monkeys This writing really does not reflect well on Zig. If you have technical issues with Github, fine: cite them. But leave ad ho…

i think the word "losers" was replaced by "rookies"

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by Jean-Papoulos »

IshKebab wrote: post #451
ttiurani wrote: post #352

Looking at these comments, it's painfully apparent how many think that being polite in your communication is more important than actually doing something. I agree it would have been nicer if the message was more polite. But if you compare that to having the backbone follow through with meaningful long-term changes against a corporation you don't trust or respect, there shouldn't even be a discussion. And don't even g…

Nobody thinks that. They just don't think that "doing something" gives you an excuse to be an arsehole. Especially if you are hypocritically violating your own CoC.

Yes, it does. Given the choice of having a coworker that's a very nice 0.1x engineer and having a bloody annoying one that's a 10x I'll work with the 10x any day.

The internet has evolved such a Newspeak, censor-driven culture, it's sad to see. I want people to be able to tell each other "I think this is shit and here's why".

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by hinkley »

antics wrote: post #335

> Unfortunately, when it sold out to Microsoft, the clock started ticking. “Please just give me 5 years before everything goes to shit,” I thought to myself. And here we are, 7 years later, living on borrowed time. Man, sometimes I feel like I live on a different planet. I have been using GitHub since 2010 and—while I really wish I had a nicer way of putting this—I cannot remember a time when all of the flagship prod…

GitHub is only nice if you’ve used bitbucket after Atlassian bought it.

But that’s very faint praise.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by [deleted] »

nromiun wrote: post #139

So much vague outrage over nothing. That CI system created by so called monkeys is the one of the best free CI service in the world. Not everyone has the millions of dollars like Zig Foundation to create their own CI servers. After that they appreciate GitHub Sponsors, but say it is now a complete liability just because a project leader left. What are the actual changes? Any new rule? But no, it is now a "liability"…

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