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Re: Google's new 'Aluminium OS' project brings Android to PC

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Pixels and Chromebooks have never had any ads. Windows 11 is plastered with them.

Pixels literally have unremovable Google ad right on the home screen. The search bar. Just because it has additional functionality, doesn't mean it's not an ad.

You can trivially install another launcher without that search bar and disable nearly all bundled apps on Pixels. Show me how easy it is to remove all the ads and bloatware from Windows.

Re: Google's new 'Aluminium OS' project brings Android to PC

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I prefer to call it systems/Linux these days. The amount of gnu bits in a desktop Linux distro is ever shrinking.

> The amount of gnu bits in a desktop Linux distro is ever shrinking. What GNU software is actually being removed from any distro?

pipewire, systemd, Wayland, etc. none of that is produced or maintained by GNU.

Re: Google's new 'Aluminium OS' project brings Android to PC

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Pixels literally have unremovable Google ad right on the home screen. The search bar. Just because it has additional functionality, doesn't mean it's not an ad.

You can trivially install another launcher without that search bar and disable nearly all bundled apps on Pixels. Show me how easy it is to remove all the ads and bloatware from Windows.

Note how you said "disable" :) . That's because it is impossible to remove bloatware from Android, praise be Google. I also have Chrome disabled on my phone for many years, but it is there still.

And regarding Windows, first I want to tell that I'm not a fan of recent MS trends too. Second - I personally never had a single ad on my Win10 and current Win11, so I wouldn't know how to remove those :) . And third - to remove bloatware just uninstall it from the Programs and Features, like OneDrive or Office. LLM can be disabled in Settings. Some bloatware will remain due to deep integration, but that's the same issue as with Google or Apple. For instance I may not want to see Stocks app on iOS, but that's not my choice to make apparently :) .

Re: Google's new 'Aluminium OS' project brings Android to PC

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MacOS requires dropping to the terminal to install unsigned applications. There is literally no need for this, except to ensure apple profits.

When do you see this? For me, I just go to System Settings → Privacy & Security. Scroll down to Security and look for the message about the blocked app, click Allow Anyway, and then reopen the app.

If I install Xournall++[1], just opening the application will fail and MacOS will ask me to move it into trash. I am required to execute `xattr -c /Applications/Xournal++.app` to "remove quarantine".

I just reinstalled and can confirm that I don't see anything in the System Settings as you say.

[1] https://github.com/xournalpp/xournalpp/releases/tag/v1.2.8

Re: Google's new 'Aluminium OS' project brings Android to PC

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One of those things that makes so much sense it’s a wonder it didn’t happen sooner.

No thanks! It makes sense for them, not for us. Their rent seeking behavior, locking down of the OS and hardware and their hostility towards the FOSS mod community and users have all worsened lately. The only reason why they ever revisit such 'features' is a massive backlash from the community. Then again, history has shown that they try to smuggle them back in some other form. Desktop and laptop are the last standin…

I wish I could upvote this comment more than once. I'm appalled it's got a negative score. Are we not on Hacker News?

What the fuck happened to this community?

Re: Google's new 'Aluminium OS' project brings Android to PC

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They hated him because he spoke the truth. An up to date ChromeOS is extremly secure compared to the non-existant security model of the linux desktop. Only Secureblue or QubesOS come even close.

You only have to give up control of the computer.

Android is open source; MacOS and Windows aren’t. This gives me more control over my computer, especially since this means LineageOS and GrapheneOS for the desktop soon.

Re: Google's new 'Aluminium OS' project brings Android to PC

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People using Linux as their desktop OS are using desktop Linux. What binaries they run on that OS doesn't change what OS they are running. You've developed a "No true Scotsman" definition for desktop Linux that seems far from the common understanding that "if you use Linux as your OS on your desktop, you are a desktop Linux user". If you feel your definition of purity tested "only Linux binaries or it doesn't count a…

It is called GNU/Linux for a reason.

By an extremist minority, it is, sure.

Re: Google's new 'Aluminium OS' project brings Android to PC

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post #293

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You can trivially install another launcher without that search bar and disable nearly all bundled apps on Pixels. Show me how easy it is to remove all the ads and bloatware from Windows.

Note how you said "disable" :) . That's because it is impossible to remove bloatware from Android, praise be Google. I also have Chrome disabled on my phone for many years, but it is there still. And regarding Windows, first I want to tell that I'm not a fan of recent MS trends too. Second - I personally never had a single ad on my Win10 and current Win11, so I wouldn't know how to remove those :) . And third - to re…

What benefit would there be to uninstalling those bundled apps entirely vs disabling them? It's a nice goal to aspire to, sure, but does it really matter?

Re: Google's new 'Aluminium OS' project brings Android to PC

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But that's more like talking about a particular distro, like I wouldn't trust North Korea's Linux distro either, compared to Debian. Meanwhile something close to GrapheneOS running on desktop sounds fantastic.

Perhaps you may like Qubes OS.

Suggesting Qubes OS as the GNU/Linux equivalent of Android is admitting defeat. Android sandboxes multiple apps running on the same system/kernel. Qubes OS sandboxes multiple apps running on multiple different systems (VMs). Qubes, laudable as it may be, is not a parallel to Android.
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