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Japan's gamble to turn island of Hokkaido into global chip hub

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> Then why did I never took an Indian or Chinese made paracetamol, but all generics in my EU country I ever took from the pharmacy ware locally made Because it was synthesized using Chinese and Indian sourced "Active Pharmaceutical Ingredients" (APIs) [0], both of whom synthesize around 80% of all APIs required by European pharma manufacturers. The EU is trying to rectify this, especially after COVID when India decid…

>Because it was synthesized using Chinese and Indian sourced "Active Pharmaceutical Ingredients" (APIs) [0], both of whom synthesize around 80% of all APIs required by European pharma manufacturers. And the EU pharma companies package it, slap their logos on it and make mega profits selling domestically. >EU member states simply does not do the same for electronics. Why do you think that is? Surely with a war next do…

> And the EU pharma companies package it, slap their logos on it and make mega profits selling domestically

Yep.

> Why do you think that is?

Because European nations lacks the linkages needed to build a competitive electronics industry.

Much of the industry is heavily linked across the Pacific, with the US, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, and Singapore transferring technology, capital, and personnel across borders to setup supply chains.

This is different with biopharma, given how closely connected European majors are with American subsidiaries. It also really doesn't hurt that much of American pharma has historically been consolidated in Greater Boston and the Delaware region which is just across the Atlantic, and European biopharma players have acted as the technology, capital, and personnel partner for developing these industries in India and China (though both do still prefer American players because of better budgets and more bleeding edge IP).

Additionally, where leadership are from matters as well. In the 1970s to 1990s, much of the electronics and software industry's mid-level and upper level leadership was West Coast based, Israel, or Asian in origin, which meant linkages were built much earlier, such as Morris Chang (Texas Instruments), Jason Chang (IllinoisTech), Vinod Dham (Intel), Dov Frohman (Intel), Kim Choong-Ki (Fairchild), Gurpreet Singh (Continental Electronics), etc. Heck, Intel began packaging semiconductors in Malaysia all the way back in 1973 - decades before they initiatited similar investments in Ireland.

The only European company that had a similar size and scope of American or Asian companies in the electronics industry was Philips NV before it broke up, but it was never at the size and scale of American Apple, IBM, or HP or Japanese Sony, Toshiba, or Sharp - let alone their Korean challengers in the 2000s like Samsung, SK Hynix, or Hyundai or their Chinese challengers in the 2010s like Huawei, TCL, Xiaomi, etc.

Most European countries lack the same bench of diaspora in leadership positions in large swathes of innovation industries. You'll easily find European leaders in services industries along with biopharma, but you'd never find a similar clustering in software, hardware, and even increasingly in biopharma to a certain extent.

Heck, most Indians who attend a Max Plank Institute for biopharma related work now return to India with a professorship or to lead an India- or America-located lab for a major like Novartis, GSK, etc.

Re: Japan's gamble to turn island of Hokkaido into global chip hub

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Blaming Bush is justified because he lied about WoD. Obama pulled out in 2011, the date Bush agreed to in 2008. Are you referring to 2014s invasion because of ISIS?

I'm not referring to any specific actions or commenting on who did what. I summarized what I've observed to be the common perception, which is that Iraq and Afghanistan were "forever wars" conducted against the informed consent of the American public, and a spectacular failure of our institutions and both party establishments. If that sounds lacking in nuance, well, I never claimed to believe American political disco…

Are both parties equally responsible?

Shouldn't discussions be as nuanced as possible if change is expected?

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I'm an American who bought a house in Hokkaido and have been living there for 18 months. Hokkaido is wonderful and Chitose is close to Sapporro (more like a suburb), has an international airport (direct flights to Seoul, Taipei, Shanghai, etc) and the bullet train will be completed by 2030 from Tokyo to Sapporro. The nature and food are unrivaled in Hokkaido and in terms of the people and culture - until about the 18…

A few questions:

How much did you pay for the house? How much rennovation did it need? Are you working remotely there? How did you acquire a house in an area that's less accommodating to English than Tokyo? Did you need/use a real estate agent?

Re: Japan's gamble to turn island of Hokkaido into global chip hub

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not referring to any specific actions or commenting on who did what. I summarized what I've observed to be the common perception, which is that Iraq and Afghanistan were "forever wars" conducted against the informed consent of the American public, and a spectacular failure of our institutions and both party establishments. If that sounds lacking in nuance, well, I never claimed to believe American political disco…

Are both parties equally responsible? Shouldn't discussions be as nuanced as possible if change is expected?

Of course they're not.

Ideally they would be, but I haven't observed that they generally are and wouldn't make such a claim.

Re: Japan's gamble to turn island of Hokkaido into global chip hub

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> I live in the US. I think it's pretty obvious the PRC is more competent in every way than our own government is. Yes, and you wouldn't be able to express your political opinion (like you do here on HN or anywhere else) if you were living in China. People living in the US tend to overlook that minute detail.

> you wouldn't be able to express your political opinion (like you do here on HN or anywhere else) if you were living in China Being able to express our opinion doesn't mean much if nothing ever changes or improves

I'd call the Civil Rights Act an improvement.

Re: Japan's gamble to turn island of Hokkaido into global chip hub

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They also claim that the Taiwan-island is part of their territory. Since Its currently full of taiwanese people and China holds regular military exercises around that island an invasion does not seem far-fetched.

It may not be far fetched but it would absolutely be a self inflicted wound to the PRC. Galvanizing global concern towards china.

The CCP takes a long view of things. They know the diplomatic fallout from the invasion will subside eventually, so they're less worried about "global concern" than you might think. It's likely they would have done the invasion already but for the fact that invasions over water are really difficult and they're not sure it would succeed.

Re: Japan's gamble to turn island of Hokkaido into global chip hub

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In terms of survival strategies, letting someone else rule over you was sort of the OG Christian thing before they got control of the Roman Empire. It's kind of the default in most places. Declaring independence and actually succeeding at it and governing yourself is remarkably rare. The question isn't what you think is wise, or what you would do (because no one knows until they're in that situation). It's whether yo…

You simply cannot compare the experience of being conquered in a pre-modern society to being conquered by the PRC. Premodern States simply couldn't afford the level of oppression and exploitation that is possible today. They usually just replaced the upper layers of the old hierarchy, put some small garrisons in a few places and left most local elites in charge, often with their local armies. If there was an organize…

This is an excellent point that I overlooked.

Re: Japan's gamble to turn island of Hokkaido into global chip hub

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China maintain the view that Tibet is part of China since the establishment of PRC, and they make this very explicit. Same for their border disputes with India. China never admitted that they believe it's not theirs. Mea while China does not ever say that Japan or Korea is part of China (and it's the only reason why they keep North Korea from collapsing despite it being super annoying). So, again, any example of Chin…

Don't most people maintain the view that Tibet is part of PRC China? They might think further autonomy or independence for it would be a good thing, like the Basque Country, but the control isn't really disputed right now. And nobody really seems to think it should be part of India. In contrast to Taiwan, where the governments in both Beijing and Taipei officially maintain that those places are part of the same count…

Sure, Tibet is part of China now. But the country was independent from 1912 until China annexed it in 1951. I'm pretty sure most Tibetans would rather be independent.

Re: Japan's gamble to turn island of Hokkaido into global chip hub

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As a European I have to say I am extremely jealous of a government with the willingness of doing something as radical as this. Europe desperately needs to secure its own semi conductor supply chain. Neither the EU nor any member states seems willing to do anything about this though. Europe still is in a position, where it feasibly could control 100% of the semiconductor value chain on the continent. But besides meani…

> Europe desperately needs to secure its own semi conductor supply chain. To be fair, Europe does have ASML which has something like 2/3 market share in DUV and almost monoplistic in EUV. The moat is enormous, so they are unlikely to face any serious competition for at least a decade if not more.

Europe cannot actually do a whole of monopolization with ASML without incurring the wrath of its only armed forces, the United States of America. Europe is essentially a military junta controlled by a foreign power. They perceive themselves to be a country because they get to do elections and stuff. Cute

Not that Japan is much different

Re: Japan's gamble to turn island of Hokkaido into global chip hub

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This, on the surface, makes logistical sense. Chitose (the proposed location) is the international airport for and largest airport in Hokkaido (New Chitose Airport). Setting up a fab and related facilities right next to this location would seem to have obvious benefits.

That is just logistics, but what about power consumption, environmental issues next to agriculture etc. I am wondering why Hokkaido instead of other places in Japan.
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