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Re: GrapheneOS migrates server infrastructure from France

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Durov runs an app where slave trade was known and documented, and did nothing.

Can you believe that the cash Euro is used in crime, human trafficking, and exploitatiom everywhere, and the US hasn't invaded Europe to stop them from supporting human rights violations all over the earth?

This has nothing to do with encryption or GrapheneOS. Durov was letting slave networks on unencrypted channels go free.

Re: GrapheneOS migrates server infrastructure from France

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GitHub is a great, free as in $, and convenient place to be. So long as they weren't ONLY on GitHub (they weren't, the source code is still around) they can get the best of both worlds before and after. The deeper problem for the Switch emulators was letting their personal life be linked to it so Nintendo could seek legal pressure against them directly.

If you host on any mainstream site, you can expect they're recording your IP address, your ISP is recording who has that address, and both of them will rapidly give it up to anyone who seems official or legally scary enough.

One as the content provider can still use the same kinds of methods such as ToR to browse clearnet hosting sites without limiting the content consumers to only accessing the content via a .onion link.

It's the same thing as the original comment except in reverse. The only downside is you may lose the popular/easy distribution method if it gets taken down. The alternative is to just declare it lost day 1 though, so there is only a gain to be made in leeching a hosting site like GitHub while you can.

Re: GrapheneOS migrates server infrastructure from France

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For what it's worth, Micay has a long history of accusing other people of slandering the project without providing any evidence or rebuttals. When asked for details, he gets defensive and accusatory, then creates multiple sockpuppet accounts to argue the same points over and over.

I read about this when I first discovered GrapheneOS, and it looked like it. And it may be partially correct. But on the other hand, I have read a lot of "drama" between e.g. /e/OS and GrapheneOS, and more often than not, it looked like GrapheneOS was criticising actual limitations of /e/OS and /e/OS (a mix of the community and official comms) seemed to be the one being unfair. GrapheneOS generally is pretty direct a…

Micay was mostly up in arms against CalyxOS not so much /e/. I can't verify that he was right, but most commenters, even former supporters like Louis Rossmann say he wasn't.

But it's been very quiet since he stepped down and I have more confidence in grapheneos now.

Re: GrapheneOS migrates server infrastructure from France

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you believe that the cash Euro is used in crime, human trafficking, and exploitatiom everywhere, and the US hasn't invaded Europe to stop them from supporting human rights violations all over the earth?

This has nothing to do with encryption or GrapheneOS. Durov was letting slave networks on unencrypted channels go free.

Same with the Europeans, do you know how much tax evasion and embezzlement goes through Ireland alone?

Re: GrapheneOS migrates server infrastructure from France

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Encryption doesn't have to be backdoord because none of the group chats on telegram are encrypted (telegram gets to claim it's "encrypted" because it's TLS between client and server, but e2ee is not claimed except for inconvenient device-to-device chat. In any case, the back door may be more of a Room 641A arrangement where all messages are intercepted by the host government, saving them the trouble of installing soc…

It's possible that at some point in the past they used TLS, but I believe that MTProto(0) is used now for any communication through Telegram. (0): https://core.telegram.org/mtproto

O no you're right, I was going off the fact that it's just an encrypted tunnel from client to server, doesn't hide any message content from service provider the way people might expect when they hear "encrypted"

Re: GrapheneOS migrates server infrastructure from France

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I'd like to understand the facts: What has government in France actually done in regard to GOS? All I've seen is one comment from one prosecutor, quoted in a news article, though certainly I could have missed much more:

Has any government agency or representative in France said anything else? Taken any actions? Contacted GOS directly?

Re: GrapheneOS migrates server infrastructure from France

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post #137

I'd like to understand the facts: What has government in France actually done in regard to GOS? All I've seen is one comment from one prosecutor, quoted in a news article, though certainly I could have missed much more: Has any government agency or representative in France said anything else? Taken any actions? Contacted GOS directly?

Well, we can remember what France did to Durov, still without charging him with anything.
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