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Three Years from GPT-3 to Gemini 3

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Re: Three Years from GPT-3 to Gemini 3

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Post by seidleroni »

mynameisjody wrote: post #43

Every time I see an article like this, it's always missing --- but is it any good, is it correct? They always show you the part that is impressive - "it walked the tricky tightrope of figuring out what might be an interesting topic and how to execute it with the data it had - one of the hardest things to teach." Then it goes on, "After a couple of vague commands (“build it out more, make it better”) I got a 14 page p…

The author actually discusses the results of the paper. He's not some rando but a Wharton Professor and when he is comparing the results to a grad student, it is with some authority.

"So is this a PhD-level intelligence? In some ways, yes, if you define a PhD level intelligence as doing the work of a competent grad student at a research university. But it also had some of the weaknesses of a grad student. The idea was good, as were many elements of the execution, but there were also problems..."

Re: Three Years from GPT-3 to Gemini 3

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Post by phantasmish »

dyauspitr wrote: post #189
cons0le wrote: post #185

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The worst part is when the AI spits out dogshit results --people show up at lightspeed in the comments to say how "you're not using it right" / "try this other model, it's better" Anecdotally, the people I see the most excited about AI are the people that don't do any fucking work. I can create a lot of value with plain ol' for loop style automation in my niche. We're stil nowhere near the limit of what we can do wit…

The only people I see complaining about AI are those that have the most to lose.

My wife and I are both paid to work on AI products and we both think the whole thing’s only sorta useful in-fact. Not nothing, but… not that much, either.

I’m not worried about AI taking our jobs, I’m worried about the market crash when the reality of the various failed (… to actually reduce payroll) or would’ve-been-cheaper-and-better-without-AI initiatives the two of us have been working on non-stop since this shit started break through the hype of investment and the music stops.

Re: Three Years from GPT-3 to Gemini 3

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Post by psychoslave »

ako wrote: post #221
psychoslave wrote: post #199

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There are some major differences though. Without using these tools, individual are pretty limited in how much bullshit they can output for many reasons, including they are not mere digital puppet without need to survive in society. It’s clear pro-slavery-minded elitists are happy to sell the speech that people should become "good complement to AI", that is even more disposable as this puppets. But unlike this mindles…

Humans can output serious amounts of unproven bullshit, e.g., 3000 incompatible gods and all the religions that come with them...

Sure, but that’s not raw individual output on its mere direct utterance capacities.

Now anyone mildly capable of using a computer is able to produce many more fictional characters than all that humanity collectively kept in its miscellaneous lores, and drawn them in an ocean of insipid narratives. All that nonetheless mostly passing all the grammatical checkboxes at a level most humans would fail (I definitely would :D).

Re: Three Years from GPT-3 to Gemini 3

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Post by phantasmish »

weatherlite wrote: post #177
TheRoque wrote: post #132

So when should we start to be worried, as developers ? Like, I don't use these tools yet for cost + security. But you can see it's getting there, mostly. It could take a day before to find a complex algorithm, understand it, and implement it to your code, now you can just ask an AI to do it for you and it could succeed in a few minutes. How long before the amount of engineers needed to maintaint a product is divived…

> So when should we start to be worried, as developers ? I've been worrying ever since chatgpt 3 came out, it was shit at everything but it was amazing as well. And in the last 3 years the progress was incredible. I don't know if you "should" worry, worrying for the sake of it isn't helping much, but yes we should all be mentally prepared to the possibility we won't be able to make a living doing this X years from no…

God, I’d love to once again be working at a company where coding speed mattered.

Meanwhile in non-tech Bigcos the slow part of everything isn’t writing the code, it’s sorting out access and keys and who you’re even supposed to be talking to, and figuring out WTF people even want to build (and no, they can’t just prompt an LLM to do it because they can’t articulate it well, and don’t have any concept of what various technologies can and cannot do).

The code is already like… 5% of the time, probably. Who gives a damn if that’s on average 2x as fast?

Re: Three Years from GPT-3 to Gemini 3

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Post by amunozo »

Culonavirus wrote: post #178
tempestn wrote: post #83

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Have you tried Gemini 3 yet? I haven't done any coding with it, but on other tasks I've been impressed compared to gpt 5 and Sonnet 4.5.

The computer science field is going to be an absolute shitshow within 5 years (it already kinda is). On one side you'll have ADHD dog attention span zoomers trying out all these nth party model apis and tools every 5 seconds (switching them like socks, insisting the latest one is better, but ultimately producing the same slop) and on the other side you'll have all these applied math gurus squeezing out the last bits…

It's been three years of amazing use cases and discoveries, and in those same years we got things like Ozempic. You can be skeptical of all the hyped things that are said that may be exaggerated without negating the good side.

Re: Three Years from GPT-3 to Gemini 3

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Post by psychoslave »

Madmallard wrote: post #219
psychoslave wrote: post #211

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It’s good at quickly producing a lot of code which is most likely going to give interesting results, and it’s completely unaware of anything including why human might want to produce code. The marketing bullshit that it’s a "thinking" and "hallucinating" is just bringing the intended confusion on the table. They are great tools for many purpose. But a GPS is not a copilot, and an LLM is not going to replace coworkers…

I mean is it really that interesting if it completely falls flat and permanently runs in unfulfilling circles around basically any mild complexity the problem introduces as you get further along solving it, making it really hard to not feel like you need to just do it yourself?

I would say yes, it’s an interesting tool.

For one thing, it’s far more interesting than a rubber duck in many cases. Of course on that matter in the end it’s about framing the representation adequately and enter a fictional dialog.

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Post by Herring »

reverius42 wrote: post #179
tehjoker wrote: post #75

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The people most vociferously for conservative values are middle class, small business owners, or upper class, though the true upper class are libertine (notice who participated in the Epstein affair). The working class is filled with all kinds of very diverse people united by the fact they have to work for a living and often can't afford e.g. expensive weddings. Some of them are religious, a whole bunch aren't. It's…

> Their unions were also destroyed. By policy changes giving unions less power, enacted by politicians that were mostly voted for by a majority, which is mostly composed of the working class. Was this people voting against their interests? (Almost literally yes, but you could argue that their ideological preference for weaker unions trumps their economic interest in stronger unions.)

"Thus, a caste system makes a captive of everyone within it."

Re: Three Years from GPT-3 to Gemini 3

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Post by digdugdirk »

amunozo wrote: post #235
Culonavirus wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The computer science field is going to be an absolute shitshow within 5 years (it already kinda is). On one side you'll have ADHD dog attention span zoomers trying out all these nth party model apis and tools every 5 seconds (switching them like socks, insisting the latest one is better, but ultimately producing the same slop) and on the other side you'll have all these applied math gurus squeezing out the last bits…

It's been three years of amazing use cases and discoveries, and in those same years we got things like Ozempic. You can be skeptical of all the hyped things that are said that may be exaggerated without negating the good side.

Ozempic has nothing to do with LLMs, so I'm a bit confused about the point you're making here?

Re: Three Years from GPT-3 to Gemini 3

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Post by oblio »

Vegenoid wrote: post #58
oblio wrote: post #32

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Yet the most popular platforms on the planet have people pointing a finger (or several) at a picture. And the most popular media format on the planet is and will be (for the foreseeable future), video. Video is only limited by our capacity to produce enough of it at a decent quality, otherwise humanity is definitely not looking back fondly at BBSes and internet forums (and I say this as someone who loves forums). Gen…

> Video is only limited by our capacity to produce enough of it at a decent quality, otherwise humanity is definitely not looking back fondly at BBSes and internet forums Video is limited by playback speed . It is a time-dependent format. Efforts can be made to enable video to be viewable at a range of speeds, but they are always somewhat constrained. Controlling video playback to slow down and rewatch certain parts…

You (and I) live in entirely different world from that of regular people, who read at most 1 book per year and definitely do not write journals that nobody will ever see.

You're talking about 10-20% of the population, at most.

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