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Re: Racism at a gaming company

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"Dumbblack " "then proceeds to do what black men always can’t help but do" "black men always telling which way is up because they feel they are the “authority” when it comes to any and everything, most often when they don’t know shit about shit" " I know when black people start to speak down to me from their pedatsol which is white privilege, they aren’t listening, nor will they" "I cannot afford to take black people…

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Re: Racism at a gaming company

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>I cannot afford to take white people’s shit anymore. That’s been my mantra this year, and I’m still on it, even if that means getting the law involved. From the comment above (and several other parts of his article) he certainly appears to be just as racist as the people he's trying to demonize. Not to mention there's a crazy amount of self entitlement going on. >I had a whole month of potential creative and communi…

he certainly appears to be just as racist as the people he's trying to demonize

There are several definitions of racist talk, one is essentially "making references to someone's race and implying everyone in that group is the same (in some attribute)". Lots of people like this definition because it's nice and simple and it means black people in the USA can be racist to white people if they say things like "Dumbwhite".

There's another definition, which is talk that's designed to maintain & reinforce the institutionalised power structure among races. Right now, if modern USA life was a video game, "white male" would be an easier difficulty level than "black male". There are statistically less problems for the "white male" group. Racist talk is talk that re-enforced that imbalance. This definition is harder for some people to accept because it means that you need to look at yourself and think about what power imbalances you might be benefiting from, and it means you can't just do s/white/black/g and make it just as racist.

So no, it's more racist to say "dumbblack" than "dumbwhite"

Re: Racism at a gaming company

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Can't fight racism with racism. Backwards racism at it's finest.

I'm always a big fan of terms like "backwards racism" and "reverse discrimination."

You're right, the author isn't a "reverse" or "backwards" racist. He is just racist, period.

Re: Racism at a gaming company

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to be honest, this is why i don't work in an it office full of poorly adjusted creeps. it's not that these guys are racist. it's not that they're sexist. they're just insensitive jerks. this actually comes across every moment of every day. it's your fault for working for them if you're white. i won't say 'it's even worse' for working for them if you're black, i will just repeat the sentence.

it's your fault for working for them if you're white. it's your fault for working for them if you're black.

get to a more sensitive, creative place. have a look around. do you see anyone like yourself? then it's time to head for the fucking door.

this goes for someone who is just creative as much as anything else.

to be honest maybe 1 out of 50 programming or internet startup places is even worth lingering for more than a hundredth of a second in.

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* this post has a tag, #creative - if you prefer the #rational tags you probably won't like it - but i think it's important for you to read it all the same

Re: Racism at a gaming company

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Kixeye should be ashamed. Hopefully enough bad press and folks commenting will get them to take a look how they operate and what they tolerate and change it. Maybe they should actually try and focus as a company. 1. insist the programmers work. There games are not that great. 2. insist their website get up to 2012 standards. I would assume they were not a serious company based upon their all Flash website. 3. Look at…

Look, I'm not a fan of Kixeye's games either but I think we should be able to agree that the quality of their website is not really a consideration when it comes to the topic of discussion here. What does Flash have to do with this?

Re: Racism at a gaming company

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A couple other commenters have mentioned this but in case the author is reading I want to emphasize the importance of winning the rhetorical war before you proceed to fight the fight you actually care about. As with any story a reader wants to like the characters they are reading about. It's hard to like someone who is constantly angry, depressed, sarcastic, and bitter. You, as a person may feel these things, and be…

That's good advise for rhetorical speeches, but maybe he's just tired. Maybe he's been putting up with a stressful and hard-to-deal-with workplace and he's just had enough and he wants to vent.

Re: Racism at a gaming company

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

WHO CARES? Yes, let's suspend his Guardian Of Society Medal Of Honor until we sort his personal politics out. Meanwhile, this guy says that management at a large SF gaming company is routinely harassing black and latino staff members. The story here isn't about him .

I agree, but some of his content will be a barrier for some people. I'm sure if the tone of the post was milder, most of the comments here would be supportive. IANAL, but I wonder if this post will hurt his chances of successfully pursuing his employers?

IANAL, but unless he said that stuff to them at work and they documented it, it would be completely immaterial.

Re: Racism at a gaming company

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This doesn't surprise me too much; a company whose advertising is straight outta 4chan is probably going to have an internal culture like that of 4chan (hyper-adolescent, ignorant, and frequently toxic) but without the benefits of 4chan (total anonymity, non-persistence).

There are upsides to such an anything-goes environment as well (creativity, originality), but it's clear that in this case, anything goes to the extent that you're white and male. I'm not wholly in sympathy with the author (that necklace does kinda look like a pocket calculator, and the inquiry didn't seem malicious), but think he is right to seek redress. That said, it would be a good idea to consult an attorney about how much to say in public; showing an advert for your employer that will be recognizable to many other people in the locality may be a bad idea.

Re: Racism at a gaming company

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"Dumbblack " "then proceeds to do what black men always can’t help but do" "black men always telling which way is up because they feel they are the “authority” when it comes to any and everything, most often when they don’t know shit about shit" " I know when black people start to speak down to me from their pedatsol which is white privilege, they aren’t listening, nor will they" "I cannot afford to take black people…

Calm down pal. Nowhere does the author imply he thinks using white in those circumstances would be any less racist... No one's out to get you.

No, he doesn't. He just tells you how horrific it is that they are being racist, whilst ignoring the fact that he's letting off racist jibes any time someone says something ignorant (and in at least one of the occasions, honestly, not wilfully so).
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