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Re: Racism at a gaming company

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Post by MartinCron »

JPKab wrote: post #25

I'm sorry, but this kind of whining is what I've heard from professional victims my entire life. Talking about gentrifiers as invaders discredits the rest of the story in my eyes. As a former trailer park country boy who grew up in a mostly black county, I can attest to how blatantly (and without even realizing it) racist and insensitive whites who grew up in affluent suburbs can be. My best friend (since age 11) is…

Maybe you didn't notice, but I just need to point out that you responded to an article about deplorable racism with the terms whining and professional victims.

Really? You're telling someone who is being treated in a sub-human way to deal with this on the specific terms that are most comfortable to the in-power assholes who are being offensive? Not everyone can (or should) be exactly like your black friend.

Re: Racism at a gaming company

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Post by lumberjack »

tptacek wrote: post #34
drats wrote: post #29

"Dumbblack " "then proceeds to do what black men always can’t help but do" "black men always telling which way is up because they feel they are the “authority” when it comes to any and everything, most often when they don’t know shit about shit" " I know when black people start to speak down to me from their pedatsol which is white privilege, they aren’t listening, nor will they" "I cannot afford to take black people…

WHO CARES? Yes, let's suspend his Guardian Of Society Medal Of Honor until we sort his personal politics out. Meanwhile, this guy says that management at a large SF gaming company is routinely harassing black and latino staff members. The story here isn't about him .

If somebody is prone to see the world in a black and white us v. them way, they might have a different perception of what is really happening, leading them to conclude that everybody is discriminating against them.

I'm not saying that this is what happened. You asked why it might be relevant and I just wanted to point this out.

Re: Racism at a gaming company

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Post by ChuckMcM »

citricsquid wrote: post #11
hugh4life wrote: post #6

I quit reading once I realized I was reading a gay man denouncing gentrifiers as being "neoliberal colonizers". Ugh... he may have experienced racism but he's also suffering from self delusion. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unreliable_narrator

I dunno if he's just angry, I guess it makes sense, but I agree that some of his comments seem off, like he has "problems" beyond the situation, these are just as racist: Also, at some point after this conversation took place, one of the women looked at my prized necklace and said “Hey, that looks like a calculator, is that a calculator?” I said “um no, it’s a necklace, it’s African, from Nairobi.” And she replies “O…

In my experience once people get to the point where they want to shout out their hurt/anger to the world they have gone past the 'civil' stage. This person has a pretty much slam dunk case for a hostile work environment, the lawsuit would wake up management to that fact.

Now it may be true that work was just the part that took them over the top, but I am not going to dismiss his clearly painful experience because of that.

Re: Racism at a gaming company

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Post by bri3d »

tptacek wrote: post #32
JPKab wrote: post #25

I'm sorry, but this kind of whining is what I've heard from professional victims my entire life. Talking about gentrifiers as invaders discredits the rest of the story in my eyes. As a former trailer park country boy who grew up in a mostly black county, I can attest to how blatantly (and without even realizing it) racist and insensitive whites who grew up in affluent suburbs can be. My best friend (since age 11) is…

Get past his politics and read the direct factual assertions he is making about things that happened at that company. They're spectacularly bad.

Also, read more about the company: Kixeye.

Not only is this terribly racist and sexist culture not just a figment of the author's politics - it's something the company is proud of: http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2012/08/...

I really hope these jokers get sued out of existence. These kind of companies are the reason anti-discrimination laws should exist in the first place.

Re: Racism at a gaming company

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Post by kespindler »

http://www.crunchbase.com/company/kixeye-2

Note who has given them funding. Send this blog post to the VC companies that have given them funding. Should hit them where it hurts.

And yes, take legal action. (Although seek legal council to ensure first bit isn't considered slander or what have you. Be in best possible position for a legal battle.) Companies like this give the profession a bad name.

Re: Racism at a gaming company

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Post by MartinCron »

drats wrote: post #29

"Dumbblack " "then proceeds to do what black men always can’t help but do" "black men always telling which way is up because they feel they are the “authority” when it comes to any and everything, most often when they don’t know shit about shit" " I know when black people start to speak down to me from their pedatsol which is white privilege, they aren’t listening, nor will they" "I cannot afford to take black people…

If there were a prize for totally missing the point by being pedantic and insensitive, you would win. Congrats!

Re: Racism at a gaming company

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Post by bduerst »

lowboy wrote: post #10
hugh4life wrote: post #6

I quit reading once I realized I was reading a gay man denouncing gentrifiers as being "neoliberal colonizers". Ugh... he may have experienced racism but he's also suffering from self delusion. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unreliable_narrator

> I quit reading once I realized I was reading a gay man denouncing gentrifiers Why does his sexual orientation factor into his credibility for you?

I don't think he is referring to the sexual orientation alone.

Re: Racism at a gaming company

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Post by aidenn0 »

cowsaysoink wrote: post #39
lowboy wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Without a doubt it's racist. But if you consider power structures and privilege, not all racism is equally bad. As a white male, I'd rather he not have that opinion of me based solely on my race, but I'm willing to give him some leeway due to his experiences.

Meh that is bullshit. What makes that more acceptable than calling someones dress thuggish because it appears similar to what all the gang members you went to school with wore? Experience doesn't get to dictate racism.

I think if he were wearing baggy jeans and gold-chains, the thuggish comment would have made more sense. His dress is more reminiscent of a gay san franciscan than a gang-banging Angeleno.

On the other hand, he's black and he's dressing different from other people at the office, so it's "thuggish"

Re: Racism at a gaming company

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Post by sliverstorm »

tptacek wrote: post #48
columbo wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> WHO CARES? It unnecessarily adds doubt to the claims being made. If your narrator has an agenda it becomes difficult to trust that narrator.

You're saying you doubt this happened?

At the very least, the magnitude and gravity claimed become suspect.
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