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McDonald's is losing its low-income customers

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The lack of vegan options — and Trump flexing his one-day McDonald’s internship — finally pushed me to boycott McDonald’s altogether. Also it became slow with all the delivery drivers queuing up as well. Burger King might be raising prices too, but at least their deals are still decent, and every burger has a vegan option (which is supposedly even cheaper for them to produce). My actual favorite “fast food” is IKEA —…

Don’t forget Trump‘s one day flex as garbage man.

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I can only speak for the UK but for quite a while now, McD's has become an uninviting experience, with miserable staff, menu screens that visibly tell you to hurry the f*k up and choose the product. Not to mention customers vying with delivery drivers for orders. I think the problem applies to all-income customers.

Australian here and the sentiment is the same. Drive-through is tolerable but dine-in is not pleasant due to basic cleaning like sweeping, wiping of tables not being done.

Around here dine-in costs the same or more than the local diner; why would you do it?

The only saving grace is the happy meal and that’s getting too expensive now, also.

Re: McDonald's is losing its low-income customers

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I can only speak for the UK but for quite a while now, McD's has become an uninviting experience, with miserable staff, menu screens that visibly tell you to hurry the f*k up and choose the product. Not to mention customers vying with delivery drivers for orders. I think the problem applies to all-income customers.

I'd rather just skip a meal than resort to McDonald's, but I've noticed in so many places there are more deliveries going out than people eating in. This seems to go for any place that does delivery. It's even hard to read reviews for places as so many of them are rating the delivery when the food in question doesn't transport well.

Re: McDonald's is losing its low-income customers

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I can only speak for the UK but for quite a while now, McD's has become an uninviting experience, with miserable staff, menu screens that visibly tell you to hurry the f*k up and choose the product. Not to mention customers vying with delivery drivers for orders. I think the problem applies to all-income customers.

Here in Spain i have had only good experiences and i love sometimes going to McDonald!

Spain has McBeer, right? Like Portugal? Different world!

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You eat at McD's or most fast food places these days, you need the app to get reasonable prices, usually at a 15-20% discount. The app really does enhance the experience, order exactly what you want without human error, roll up to the drive-thru, give them the code, and they begin making the order at that point. They've been pushing $5 value meals recently because the dollar menu's just not fiscally feasible anymore…

Don't overlook paper coupons. A while back I took a look at the advertising junk that appears in my physical mailbox instead of just throwing it in my recycle bin and found some really good fast food coupons. Where I am both Subway and Burger King have been sending approximately monthly a sheet full of coupons with some quite good deals.

Subway you just google “November 2025 subway coupon” and find the Reddit thread and use FL1299 and get two footlongs for the price of a decimeter.

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Only if you lack the planning skills to soak them in the morning or the night before. Besides, hydrated canned beans are perfectly affordable.

Planning ahead is the #1 problem for people with executive dysfunction, many of whom work in IT.

If we replaced half of schooling with simple planning courses and classes half the world’s problems would be solved.

Of course, it’d crash the consumer market so of course it’ll never be done.

Re: McDonald's is losing its low-income customers

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Absolutely. I feel bad for young people growing up in this broken world. They will never even know what was taken from them. I realize that I’m probably going to get dogpiled for saying it, but I think that the response to COVID (ie lockdowns) did far more damage than the disease itself.

I don't understand why people still blame the lockdowns. When the lockdowns started, it was unknown how dangerous Covid actually was. It could have killed 20%, or reduced lifespan by 30%, or something. Nobody knew. It takes 20/20 hindsight to blame lockdowns for what was a generational catastrophe. It's like blaming shelter in place requirements instead of the bombing of the reich.

To be fair to the parent, despite what they think about the lockdown decision now, it says nothing about whether or not they thought it made any sense then.

It's perferctly possible to believe that the lockdown was a reasonable decision with what was known then, and still believe that the lockdown is to blame for certain unavoidable consequences down the line. Again, the parent might not believe this as well but their point can be taken separately fron your complaint.

Since several generations of Americans are not familiar with a drawn out sustained attack on acceptable cost-of-living parameters, the observation that "people are more awful" should be familiar to many people who lived and endured in places that have had decades-long deteriorating econonmies. If the economy or subjective economic perception had not tanked post-lockdown, the awfulness of people would be much less pronounced I believe.

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You're probably imagining two black coffees, and all three drinks being of modest size like medium. But if you turn those into "specialty" coffees and upsize them, and then add ~10% sales tax, it's very plausible that the price was closer to $20 than $10. Between prices inflating and people's tastes being pretty unmoderated and indulgent for a long while now, the total cost of "everyday" expenses adds up quick. Even…

> if you turn those into "specialty" coffees and upsize them, and then add ~10% sales tax Right off the bat, it's McDonalds, there are no "specialty" coffees. And the sales tax is irrelevant, what matters is what comes out of the pocket. $20 for McD-quality coffees and soda is insanely expensive. It puts it above places like Starbucks which makes no sense because there's a Starbucks literally 50m/150ft away from that…

McD’s made a huge push into the “upscale coffee” market about a decade ago (e.g., competing directly with Starbucks) and it’s paid off.

The gas stations that did similar are also doing well. The era of Irma’s coffee is past.

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I mean, near me there are a couple of places that sell sometimes even better quality than McDonald’s for lower prices, so McDonald’s loses the competition in the financial convenience factor.

That has been huge. I used to be able to be absolutely sure that if I picked McD’s, at least the bill would be smallest.

No longer. They’re more expensive than Culver’s sometimes!

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> I dread even eating out anymore as I fully expect to overpay for bad food and service. I don't know if HN is the place to say this. But, it's just infinitely better these days to cook your own meals. With some modest initial investment and planning, you can minimize the average time and cost of doing it, while still having access to a reasonaly healthy and delicious menu, though slightly repetitive. But if you real…

You can't finish your comment without sharing some of your favourite recipes =P

Practically anything you can find online videos for are better than their counterparts from low end restaurants. I have a lot of favs, but most are regional dishes that are not very well known internationally. Pastas are an exception. Cakes too taste a whole lot different and much richer when you do it.
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