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How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by blibble »

wat10000 wrote: post #280
blibble wrote: post #251

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the US trying to coerce Ukraine into surrendering territory, and then having to pay the US to do it is a violation of their sovereignty

What's the threat? "Do this or we'll stop helping you" is not a violation of sovereignty, distasteful though it may be in this case.

Article 3 of the Budapest memorandum[1]:

> 3. The United States of America, the Russian Federation, and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the CSCE Final Act, to refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by the Republic of Belarus of the rights inherent in its sovereignty and thus to secure advantages of any kind.

the US regime is attempting to do this

[1]: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Memorandum_on_Security_Assura...

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Post by sjsdaiuasgdia »

pessimizer wrote: post #281
PeterStuer wrote: post #161

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As a European I can agree with the US and China stuff. But a Russian Invasion? Seriously?

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> The Ukrainians can always jut bail out of this fight

Putin can end the war immediately whenever he wants.

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Post by illiac786 »

op00to wrote: post #273
TrainedMonkey wrote: post #260

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I noticed that people love pointing how far AI field has advanced in a few years and extrapolate next few years. While at the same time being dismissive of Chinese semiconductor manufacturing process. In similar vein I also remember claims that TSMC Fab in Arizona can never work, and yet it does. So I don't know man, I wouldn't underestimate what a billion of enterprising people can do. Especially when paired with th…

Underestimating China seems like a really, really, really stupid thing to do.

Is that sarcastic? Isn’t underestimating by definition a bad thing?

Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by vkou »

jatsek wrote: post #285
vkou wrote: post #252

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A US company is free to cut off service to whatever foreigner it wants, just like a foreign country is free to ban whatever US firm it wants from operating in it.

Please look up what happened to Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras or Costa Rica when they tried banning whatever US firm they wanted.

The EU has more weight than Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras, Costa Rica, Cuba, or Grenada.

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Post by buran77 »

KK7NIL wrote: post #311
beej71 wrote: post #284

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> that's the best they'll have until they can manufacture EUV machines domestically. And how far out is that?

If you ask PRC shills, it's just around the corner because this one Chinese lab demonstrated a very small part of the system. And a surprising number of westerners fall for that crap. My guess is that it's at least 10 years away, but that could obviously change depending on what resources they're willing to commit. But even at that point they'll be 2 decades behind ASML's EUV tech so it probably won't be competitive.

> If you ask PRC shills

GP must have been asking for the non-PRC shill opinion.

> My guess is that it's at least 10 years away,

That doesn't sound at all like a lot. China has a uniquely effective industrial espionage... industry, combined with a very thick geopolitical skin and disregard for international demands. This helps accelerate any process that others have already perfected.

We'll start to see the real deal if/when China eventually catches up to the leaders in every field and the only way to pull ahead is to be entirely self propelled (you can't take advantage of someone else's draft when you're in front of the pack).

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Post by mrguyorama »

embedding-shape wrote: post #123
IAmBroom wrote: post #121

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I was unaware that the US did anything similar to the Holocaust in Japan. As are the Japanese.

I don't think there are many Japanese alive today not aware of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. While it's true they didn't place Japanese in internment cam.. no wait, they did do that. While it's true they didn't straight up execute Japanese folks on the street, they did effectively erase two cities from the world map, how that isn't a "Crime against Humanity", I don't know why we even have the label. So yeah, the US didn't…

>aware of Hiroshima and Nagasaki

Of course this argument never uses the much more horrifying and abysmal firebombing of Tokyo, because it doesn't come from a place of historical knowledge, but rather trite lies.

Hell, the Allies told Japan (literally) "Surrender or face prompt and utter destruction", while Japan knew they were utterly cooked and already lost the war like a year ago, and they simply ignored it. Japan was not totally ignorant of the concept of a nuclear weapon either, as they had competent physicists and a low effort nuclear weapons program.

If you do not want your city turned to ash, do not START a war of aggression on your neighbors and the damn world because of imperial ambitions, and then do not continue such war long after it was clear you had already lost, including instructing and training your citizens to die en masse for the emperor.

The Japanese were actively trying to erase a billion people. Actions have consequences.

There was no end to Imperial Japan without just staggering death of japanese people. It doesn't matter whether that death came from Chinese soldiers or nuclear fire or Russian waves or American Marines.

If you don't want people to kill you, start by not becoming an absurd cartoon villain.

Imperial Japan was the exact horrific Fascism as the Nazis, and anything less than unconditional surrender was unacceptable.

Internment was fucking awful, and I think it's very telling we never interned German Americans even though we knew Germans DID sabotage US industries during WW1 but I guess Germans are too white for the racist Americans who thought Hitler was a cool guy to get uppity about.

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Post by isr »

a2tech wrote: post #46
embedding-shape wrote: post #22

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> It used to be that the US stood out because it took the law seriously and believed in its ideals to do the right thing I think it looked like that, because the US always been very effective at propaganda, and until the internet and the web made it very easy for people to communicate directly with each other without the arms of media conglomerates. It's now clearer than ever that US never really believed in its own…

I’m an American and I can safely vouch that myself and most of the people I know deeply believe in the American ideals that have been presented as gospel for decades—fair play, hard work, rule of law, loving our neighbors (regardless of legal status), and to a one, believe that as soon as you swear your oath at the immigration court, you’re an American, regardless of the circumstances of your birth. The situation we…

Look, we can all acknowledge that there were, and are, many Americans who wish for this to be true. But at no point in America's history did that "many" ever constitute a majority. Or even close to it.

Which is why, from its very inception, the US has employed mass genocide at home, invasions & regime changes in the America's, then post-slavery apartheid at home, with invasions & regime changes in the rest of the world.

That's not anti-American rhetoric. That's just historical fact.

So, commingled with those facts, where does "law, love & fair play" come in. If you're honest, THAT was the propaganda. And the above realities, that was the truth.

The America of today IS the America it has always been. Its just that the propaganda mask can't be reattached with more duct tape. America started by geniciding non-whites at home, and rounding up & dragging non-whites TO America, in chains.

Now it's genociding non-whites abroad (primarily the Middle East), and rounding up & dragging non-whites FROM America, in chains.

When you focus on the common threads throughout American history, and strip away the fluff, you realise ... that's the real America (which still has the largest slave labour force in the world, through indentured workforces via its prison system).

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Post by Nextgrid »

gusfoo wrote: post #320
beej71 wrote: post #284

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> that's the best they'll have until they can manufacture EUV machines domestically. And how far out is that?

> And how far out is that? These guys have a 100% market share https://www.asml.com/en/products/euv-lithography-systems at the 'extreme' end and, obviously, everyone else is trying but haven't really shown much promise. Here's a good background article on the topic: https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2025/03/12/...

> everyone else is trying but haven't really shown much promise

What was the incentive/funding for their attempts? In a non-national-security scenario it makes sense not to try too hard because you can just buy ASML's solution.

With China it's a bit different, if they decide it's a matter of national security and pour Manhattan-project-levels of money/resources into it, they could make faster progress.

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Post by selivanovp »

wat10000 wrote: post #167
immibis wrote: post #117

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Ukraine WAS a nuclear weapons state, until the US agreed to protect them from Russia with the US's nuclear weapons, if they gave up their own.

The US did not agree to protect them. The signatures to the Budapest Memorandum agreed to respect Ukraine's sovereignty. Of the signatories, Russia is the only one that has violated the agreement.

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