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Re: Building more with GPT-5.1-Codex-Max

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Post by bossyTeacher »

timtimmy wrote: post #88
amluto wrote: post #40

I would love to see all the big players put 1% of the effort they put into model training into making the basic process of paying and signing in suck less. Claude: they barely have a signin system at all. Multiple account support doesn’t exist. The minimum seat count for business is nonsense. The data retention policies are weak. OpenAI: Make ZDR a thing you can use or buy without talking to sales, already. And for t…

Google keeps changing their privacy and “don’t train on my data/code” options. When gemini-cli launched, there was a clear toggle for “don’t train on my code.” That’s now gone; it just links to a generic privacy page for me. Maybe something with my account changed, I can't figure it out. Deep in the Cloud Gemini console, there’s another setting that might control training, but it’s not clear what products it actually…

>OpenAI in particular has my trust.

I wouldn't trust Sam Altman. Or any of the big players really.

Re: Building more with GPT-5.1-Codex-Max

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Post by redler »

atonse wrote: post #49
amluto wrote: post #40

I would love to see all the big players put 1% of the effort they put into model training into making the basic process of paying and signing in suck less. Claude: they barely have a signin system at all. Multiple account support doesn’t exist. The minimum seat count for business is nonsense. The data retention policies are weak. OpenAI: Make ZDR a thing you can use or buy without talking to sales, already. And for t…

Agree 1,000%. I just won’t even waste my time with the google stuff cuz I can’t figure out how to pay with it. And that’s a problem everywhere at google. Our google play account is suspended cuz I can’t verify the company. It won’t let me cuz it says I’m not the owner. I’ve always been the owner of my company. For 18 years. There is no one else. Once some error said make sure the owner email matches your profile in g…

Conway’s Law strikes again.

Re: Building more with GPT-5.1-Codex-Max

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Post by fHr »

amluto wrote: post #40

I would love to see all the big players put 1% of the effort they put into model training into making the basic process of paying and signing in suck less. Claude: they barely have a signin system at all. Multiple account support doesn’t exist. The minimum seat count for business is nonsense. The data retention policies are weak. OpenAI: Make ZDR a thing you can use or buy without talking to sales, already. And for t…

Google listen to this man and fire 90% of your useless product managers!

Re: Building more with GPT-5.1-Codex-Max

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Post by epolanski »

Atotalnoob wrote: post #112
999900000999 wrote: post #94

I really would prefer them to start creating customized models. I've vibe coded Godot games extensively. Just about every model I've tried likes to invent imaginary functions. I was really prefer for there to be a way for me to pick model trained in whatever framework I need. Reviewing AI generated code feels like editing a long book, and every now and then you notice some words are just completely made up. You then…

I’ve found writing a MCP server with access to the docs cloned locally does wonders.

I don't know context is still an issue if you have lots of docs in my experience.

Re: Building more with GPT-5.1-Codex-Max

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Post by sumedh »

amluto wrote: post #40

I would love to see all the big players put 1% of the effort they put into model training into making the basic process of paying and signing in suck less. Claude: they barely have a signin system at all. Multiple account support doesn’t exist. The minimum seat count for business is nonsense. The data retention policies are weak. OpenAI: Make ZDR a thing you can use or buy without talking to sales, already. And for t…

Its the same with Cursor. As a Cursor Admin I want the ability to enable only specific models and disable the rest to save costs but I cannot do that. It should be pretty simple to do it but for some reason Cursor wont add that functionality in their Admin tools.

Re: Building more with GPT-5.1-Codex-Max

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Post by sunaookami »

johnfn wrote: post #56

I've been using a lot of Claude and Codex recently. One huge difference I notice between Codex and Claude code is that, while Claude basically disregards your instructions (CLAUDE.md) entirely, Codex is extremely, painfully, doggedly persistent in following every last character of them - to the point that i've seen it work for 30 minutes to convolute some solution that was only convoluted because of some sentence I t…

Agreed 100%, that's why I would recommend Codex for e.g. logfile analysis. Had some annoying php warnings in the logs from a WordPress plugin because I've used another plugin in the past (like... over 10 years ago) that wrote invalid metadata for every media file into the database and it didn't annoy me THAT much that I wanted to invest much time into it. So I gave codex the logfile and my WordPress dir and access to the WP-CLI command and it correctly identified the issue and wrote scripts to delete the old metadata (I did check it & make backups of course). Codex took a LOT of time though, it's veeeeeeery slow as you said. But I could do other things in the meantime.

Re: Building more with GPT-5.1-Codex-Max

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Post by kenjackson »

simianwords wrote: post #28
qsort wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> due to context-window limits

context window is not some physical barrier but rather the attention just getting saturated. what did i get wrong here?

I think attention literally doesn't see anything beyond the context window. Even within the context window you may start to see attentional issues, but that's a different problem.

Re: Building more with GPT-5.1-Codex-Max

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Post by jiggawatts »

brobdingnagians wrote: post #117
amluto wrote: post #40

I would love to see all the big players put 1% of the effort they put into model training into making the basic process of paying and signing in suck less. Claude: they barely have a signin system at all. Multiple account support doesn’t exist. The minimum seat count for business is nonsense. The data retention policies are weak. OpenAI: Make ZDR a thing you can use or buy without talking to sales, already. And for t…

Such great case studies of how LLM coding will make all of your employees 1000x more productive at coding, design, and UX. They really are leading the way showing us into the brighter future of AI software /s

Nobody claimed AIs will make office politics go away.

Peering into my crystal ball: once all "workers" have been replaced, all humans will spend all of their working hours on nothing but office politics.

Re: Building more with GPT-5.1-Codex-Max

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Post by aerhardt »

tunesmith wrote: post #85

I've been dealing with Codex CLI for a while and I love it, but I'm wondering if my thinking is just limited. While I'm starting discussions and creating plan docs, I've never been able to ask it to do anything that takes it longer than 25 minutes or so. Usually far less. I'm having trouble imagining what I can ask it to do that would make it take hours - like, wouldn't that require putting together an absolutely mas…

The idea of giving it a task that may take six hours and reviewing it also gives me shivers.

I'm a very happy Codex customer, but everything turns to disgusting slop if I don't provide:

(1) Up-to-date AGENTS.md and an excellent prompt

(2) A full file-level API with function signatures, return types and function-level guidance if it's a complex one

(3) Multiple rounds of feedback until the result is finely sculpted

Overall it's very small units of work - one file or two, tops.

I've been letting the above standards go for the last couple of weeks due to crunch and looking at some of the hotspots of slop now lying around has me going all Homelander-face [1] at the sight of them.

Those hotspots are a few hundred lines in the worst cases; I'm definitely not ready to deal with the fallout of any unit of work that takes even more than 20min.

[1] https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/050/702/ab7...

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