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Re: Gemini 3

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Post by bitpush »

coffeecoders wrote: post #136

Feels like the same consolidation cycle we saw with mobile apps and browsers are playing out here. The winners aren’t necessarily those with the best models, but those who already control the surface where people live their digital lives. Google injects AI Overviews directly into search, X pushes Grok into the feed, Apple wraps "intelligence" into Maps and on-device workflows, and Microsoft is quietly doing the same…

> Google injects AI Overviews directly into search, X pushes Grok into the feed, Apple wraps "intelligence" into Maps and on-device workflows, and Microsoft is quietly doing the same with Copilot across Windows and Office.

One of them isnt the same as others (hint: It is Apple). The only thing Apple is doing with Maps is, is adding ads https://www.macrumors.com/2025/10/26/apple-moving-ahead-with...

Re: Gemini 3

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Post by farazbabar »

dwringer wrote: post #236

Well, I tried a variation of a prompt I was messing with in Flash 2.5 the other day in a thread about AI-coded analog clock faces. Gemini Pro 3 Preview gave me a result far beyond what I saw with Flash 2.5, and got it right in a single shot.[0] I can't say I'm not impressed, even though it's a pretty constrained example. > Please generate an analog clock widget, synchronized to actual system time, with hands that upd…

https://ai.studio/apps/drive/1yAxMpwtD66vD5PdnOyISiTS2qFAyq1... <- this is very nice, I was able to make seconds smooth with three iterations (it used svg initially which was jittery, but eventually this).

Re: Gemini 3

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Post by stalfie »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #314
recitedropper wrote: post #270

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perception seems to be one of the main constraints on LLMs that not much progress has been made on. Perhaps not surprising, given perception is something evolution has worked on since the inception of life itself. Likely much, much more expensive computationally than it receives credit for.

I strongly suspect it's a tokenization problem. Text and symbols fit nicely in tokens, but having something like a single "dog leg" token is a tough problem to solve.

The neural network in the retina actually pre-processes visual information into something akin to "tokens". Basic shapes that are probably somewhat evolutionarily preserved. I wonder if we could somehow mimic those for tokenization purposes. Most likely there's someone out there already trying.

(Source: "The mind is flat" by Nick Chater)

Re: Gemini 3

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Post by lifty »

catigula wrote: post #359
dudeinhawaii wrote: post #355

Gemini has been so far behind agentically it's comical. I'll be giving it a shot but it has a herculean task ahead of itself. It has to not only be "good enough" but a "quantum leap forward". That said, OpenAI was in the same place earlier in the year and very quickly became the top agentic platform with GPT-5-Codex. The AI crowd is surprisingly not sticky. Coders quickly move to whatever the best model is. Excited t…

Claude is still a better agent for software professionals though it is less capable, so there isn't nothing to having the incumbent advantage.

Not my experience. Codex is the top coding model in my experience and has been since it’s out. Makes fewer mistakes and understands better my intentions.

Re: Gemini 3

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Post by jennyholzer »

bigstrat2003 wrote: post #317
Kiro wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree but if Gemini 3 is as good as people on HN said about the preview, then this is the wrong announcement to sleep on.

No LLM has ever been as good as people said it was. That doesn't mean this one won't be, but it does make it an unlikely bet based on past trends.

"No LLM has ever been as good as people said it was."

The reason for this is because LLM companies have tuned their models to aggressively blow smoke up their users' asses.

These "tools" are designed to aggressively exploit human confirmation bias, so as to prevent the user from identifying their innumerable inadequacies.

Re: Gemini 3

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Post by Workaccount2 »

thefourthchime wrote: post #103
prodigycorp wrote: post #22

I'm sure this is a very impressive model, but gemini-3-pro-preview is failing spectacularly at my fairly basic python benchmark. In fact, gemini-2.5-pro gets a lot closer (but is still wrong). For reference: gpt-5.1-thinking passes, gpt-5.1-instant fails, gpt-5-thinking fails, gpt-5-instant fails, sonnet-4.5 passes, opus-4.1 passes (lesser claude models fail). This is a reminder that benchmarks are meaningless – you…

I like to ask "Make a pacman game in a single html page". No model has ever gotten a decent game in one shot. My attempt with Gemini3 was no better than 2.5.

It made a working game for me (with a slightly expanded prompt), but the ghosts got trapped in the box after coming back from getting killed. A second prompt fixed it. The art and animation however was really impressive.

Re: Gemini 3

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Post by thomasahle »

lairv wrote: post #293

Out of curiosity, I gave it the latest project euler problem published on 11/16/2025, very likely out of the training data Gemini thought for 5m10s before giving me a python snippet that produced the correct answer. The leaderboard says that the 3 fastest human to solve this problem took 14min, 20min and 1h14min respectively Even thought I expect this sort of problem to very much be in the distribution of what the mo…

I also used Gemini 3 Pro Preview. It finished it 271s = 4m31s.

Sadly, the answer was wrong.

It also returned 8 "sources", like stackexchange.com, youtube.com, mpmath.org, ncert.nic.in, and kangaroo.org.pk, even though I specifically told it not to use websearch.

Still a useful tool though. It definitely gets the majority of the insights.

Prompt: https://aistudio.google.com/app/prompts?state=%7B%22ids%22:%...

Re: Gemini 3

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Post by ilaksh »

okay since Gemini 3 is AI mode now, I switched from the free perplexity back to google as being my search default.
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