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Re: Gemini 3

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2D SVG is old news. Next frontier is animated 3D. One shot shows there's still progress to be made: https://aistudio.google.com/apps/drive/1XA4HdqQK5ixqi1jD9uMg...

Did you notice that this embedded a Gemini API connection within the app itself? Or am I not understanding what that is?

I hadn't! It looks like that is there to power the text box at the bottom of the app that allows for AI-powered changes to the scene.

Re: Gemini 3

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Idk, Sonnet 4.5 score better than Sonnet 4.0 on that benchmark, but is markedly worse in my usage. The utility of the benchmark is fading as it is gamed.

I think I and many others have found Sonnet 4.5 to generally be better than Sonnet 4 for coding.

Maybe if you confirm to its expectations for how you use it. 4.5 is absolutely terrible for following directions, thinks it knows better than you, and will gaslight you until specifically called out on its mistake.

I have scripted prompts for long duration automated coding workflows of the fire and forget, issue description -> pull request variety. Sonnet 4 does better than you’d expect: it generates high quality mergable code about half the time. Sonnet 4.5 fails literally every time.

Re: Gemini 3

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I agree but if Gemini 3 is as good as people on HN said about the preview, then this is the wrong announcement to sleep on.

Why? Not trying to challenge you, and I'd sincerely love to read your response. People said similar things about previous gen-AI tool announcements that proved over time to be overstated. Is there some reason to put more weight in "what people on HN said" in this case, compared to previous situations?

Because either:

1. They likely work at the company (and have RSUs that need to go up)

2. Also invested in the company in the open market or have active call options.

3. Trying to sell you their "AI product".

4. All of the above.

Re: Gemini 3

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I expect almost no-one to read the Gemini 3 model card. But here is a damning excerpt from the early leaked model card from [0]: > The training dataset also includes: publicly available datasets that are readily downloadable; data obtained by crawlers; licensed data obtained via commercial licensing agreements; user data (i.e., data collected from users of Google products and services to train AI models, along with u…

I'm pretty sure they mention in their various TOSes that they don't train on user data in places like Gmail.

That said, LLMs are the most data-greedy technology of all time, and it wouldn't surprise me that companies building them feel so much pressure to top each other they "sidestep" their own TOSes. There are plenty of signals they are already changing their terms to train when previously they said they wouldn't--see Anthropic's update in August regarding Claude Code.

If anyone ever starts caring about privacy again, this might be a way to bring down the crazy AI capex / tech valuations. It is probably possible, if you are a sufficiently funded and motivated actor, to tease out evidence of training data that shouldn't be there based on a vendor's TOS. There is already evidence some IP owners (like NYT) have done this for copyright claims, but you could get a lot more pitchforks out if it turns out Jane Doe's HIPAA-protected information in an email was trained on.

Re: Gemini 3

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Well, I tried a variation of a prompt I was messing with in Flash 2.5 the other day in a thread about AI-coded analog clock faces. Gemini Pro 3 Preview gave me a result far beyond what I saw with Flash 2.5, and got it right in a single shot.[0] I can't say I'm not impressed, even though it's a pretty constrained example.

> Please generate an analog clock widget, synchronized to actual system time, with hands that update in real time and a second hand that ticks at least once per second. Make sure all the hour markings are visible and put some effort into making a modern, stylish clock face. Please pay attention to the correct alignment of the numbers, hour markings, and hands on the face.

[0] https://aistudio.google.com/app/prompts?state=%7B%22ids%22:%...

Re: Gemini 3

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I have my own private benchmarks for reasoning capabilities on complex problems and i test them against SOTA models regularly (professional cases from law and medicine). Anthropic (Sonnet 4.5 Extended Thinking) and OpenAI (Pro Models) get halfway decent results on many cases while Gemini Pro 2.5 struggled (it was overconfident in its initial assumptions). So i ran these benchmarks against Gemini 3 Pro and i'm not impressed. The reasoning is way more nuanced than their older model but it still makes mistakes which the other two SOTA competitor models don't make. Like it forgets in a law benchmark that those principles don't apply in the country from the provided case. It seems very US centric in its thinking whereas Anthropic and OpenAI pro models seem to be more aware around the context of assumed culture from the case. All in - i don't think this new model is ahead of the other two main competitors - but it has a new nuanced touch and is certainly way better than Gemini 2.5 pro (which is more telling how bad actually that one was for complex problems).

Re: Gemini 3

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Update VSCode to the latest version and click the small "Chat" button at the top bar. GitHub gives you like $20 for free per month and I think they have a deal with the larger vendors because their pricing is insanely cheap. One week of vibe-coding costs me like $15, only downside to Copilot is that you can't work on multiple projects at the same time because of rate-limiting.

I'm asking about Gemini, not Copilot.

Copilot lets you access all sorts of models, including Gemini 3.

https://i.xevion.dev/ShareX/2025/11/Code_9LWnDqpeCe.png

Re: Gemini 3

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post #214

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Update VSCode to the latest version and click the small "Chat" button at the top bar. GitHub gives you like $20 for free per month and I think they have a deal with the larger vendors because their pricing is insanely cheap. One week of vibe-coding costs me like $15, only downside to Copilot is that you can't work on multiple projects at the same time because of rate-limiting.

I'm asking about Gemini, not Copilot.

You were asking about the model. You can use the model (Gemini 3 Pro) in Github Chat.

Re: Gemini 3

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I asked it to summarize an article about the Zizians which mentions Yudkowsky SEVEN times. Gemini-3 did not mention him once. Tried it ten times and got zero mention of Yudkowsky, despite him being a central figure in the story. https://xcancel.com/xundecidability/status/19908286970881311...

Also, can you guess which pelican SVG was gemini 3 vs 2.5? https://xcancel.com/xundecidability/status/19908113191723213...

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