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Re: Gemini 3

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Post by HDThoreaun »

giarc wrote: post #134
bespokedevelopr wrote: post #121

Wow so the polymarket insider bet was true then.. https://old.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/1oz6gjp/new...

These prediction markets are so ripe for abuse it's unbelievable. People need to realize there are real people on the other side of these bets. Brian Armstong, CEO of Coinbase intentionally altered the outcome of a bet by randomly stating "Bitcoin, Ethereum, blockchain, staking, Web3" at the end of an earnings call. These types of bets shouldn't be allowed.

I’m pretty sure that these model release date markets are made to be abused. They’re just a way to pay insiders to tell you when the model will be released.

The mention markets are pure degenerate gambling and everyone involved knows that

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Post by lfx »

clusterhacks wrote: post #205

I wish I could just pay for the model and self-host on local/rented hardware. I'm incredibly suspicious of companies totally trying to capture us with these tools.

Technically you can!

I haven't seen it in the box yet, and pricing is unknown https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/ai-machine-learning/r...

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Post by edaemon »

lalitmaganti wrote: post #156
bilekas wrote: post #120

> The Gemini app surpasses 650 million users per month, more than 70% of our Cloud customers use our AI, 13 million developers have built with our generative models, and that is just a snippet of the impact we’re seeing Not to be a negative nelly, but these numbers are definitely inflated due to Google literally pushing their AI into everything they can, much like M$. Can't even search google without getting an AI re…

> Gemini app surpasses 650 million users per month Unless these numbers are just lies, I'm not sure how this is "pushing their AI into everything they can". Especially on iOS where every user is someone who went to App Store and downloaded it. Admittedly on Android, Gemini is preinstalled these days but it's still a choice that users are making to go there rather than being an existing product they happen to user oth…

I unlocked my phone the other day and had the entire screen taken over with an ad for the Gemini app. There was a big "Get Started" button that I almost accidentally clicked because it was where I was about to tap for something else.

As an Android and Google Workspace user, I definitely feel like Google is "pushing their AI into everything they can", including the Gemini app.

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Post by mccoyb »

fschuett wrote: post #202
mccoyb wrote: post #138

I truly do not understand what plan to use so I can use this model for longer than ~2 minutes. Using Anthropic or OpenAI's models are incredibly straightforward -- pay us per month, here's the button you press, great. Where do I go for this for these Google models?

Update VSCode to the latest version and click the small "Chat" button at the top bar. GitHub gives you like $20 for free per month and I think they have a deal with the larger vendors because their pricing is insanely cheap. One week of vibe-coding costs me like $15, only downside to Copilot is that you can't work on multiple projects at the same time because of rate-limiting.

I'm asking about Gemini, not Copilot.

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Post by recitedropper »

joaogui1 wrote: post #159
bilekas wrote: post #120

> The Gemini app surpasses 650 million users per month, more than 70% of our Cloud customers use our AI, 13 million developers have built with our generative models, and that is just a snippet of the impact we’re seeing Not to be a negative nelly, but these numbers are definitely inflated due to Google literally pushing their AI into everything they can, much like M$. Can't even search google without getting an AI re…

It says Gemini App, not AI Overviews, AI Mode, etc

They claim AI overviews as having "2 billion users" in the sentences prior. They are clearly trying as hard as possible to show the "best" numbers.

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Post by mudkipdev »

zurfer wrote: post #90

It also tops LMSYS leaderboard across all categories. However knowledge cutoff is Jan 2025. I do wonder how long they have been pre-training this thing :D.

Isn't it the same cutoff as 2.5?

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Post by qustrolabe »

Out of all other companies Google provide the most generous free access so far. I bet this gives them plenty of data to train even better models

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Post by redsymbol »

Kiro wrote: post #155
srameshc wrote: post #112

I think I am in this AI fatigue phase. I am past all hype with models, tools and agents and back to problem and solution approach, sometimes code gen with AI , sometimes think and ask for a piece of code. But not offloading to AI and buying all the bs, waiting it to do magic with my codebase.

I agree but if Gemini 3 is as good as people on HN said about the preview, then this is the wrong announcement to sleep on.

Why?

Not trying to challenge you, and I'd sincerely love to read your response. People said similar things about previous gen-AI tool announcements that proved over time to be overstated. Is there some reason to put more weight in "what people on HN said" in this case, compared to previous situations?

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Post by dragonwriter »

digbybk wrote: post #93
bnchrch wrote: post #87

I've been so happy to see Google wake up. Many can point to a long history of killed products and soured opinions but you can't deny theyve been the great balancing force (often for good) in the industry. - Gmail vs Outlook - Drive vs Word - Android vs iOS - Worklife balance and high pay vs the low salary grind of before. Theyve done heaps for the industry. Im glad to see signs of life. Particularly in their P/E whic…

Ironically, OpenAI was conceived as a way to balance Google's dominance in AI.

I thought it was a workaround to Google's complete disinterest in productizing the AI research it was doing and publishing, rather than a way to balance their dominance in a market which didn't meaningfully exist.
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