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Re: Gemini 3

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Post by dktp »

mccoyb wrote: post #138

I truly do not understand what plan to use so I can use this model for longer than ~2 minutes. Using Anthropic or OpenAI's models are incredibly straightforward -- pay us per month, here's the button you press, great. Where do I go for this for these Google models?

Google actually changed it somewhat recently (3 months ago, give or take) and you can use Gemini CLI with the "regular" Google AI Pro subscription (~22eur/month). Before that, it required a separate subscription

I can't find the announcement anymore, but you can see it under benefits here https://support.google.com/googleone/answer/14534406?hl=en

The initial separate subscriptions were confusing at best. Current situation is pretty much same as Anthropic/OpenAI - straightforward

Edit: changed ~1 month ago (https://old.reddit.com/r/Bard/comments/1npiv2o/google_ai_pro...)

Re: Gemini 3

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Post by dwringer »

dyauspitr wrote: post #273
dwringer wrote: post #236

Well, I tried a variation of a prompt I was messing with in Flash 2.5 the other day in a thread about AI-coded analog clock faces. Gemini Pro 3 Preview gave me a result far beyond what I saw with Flash 2.5, and got it right in a single shot.[0] I can't say I'm not impressed, even though it's a pretty constrained example. > Please generate an analog clock widget, synchronized to actual system time, with hands that upd…

Having seen the page the other day this is pretty incredible. Does this have the same 2000 token limit as the other page?

This isn't using the same prompt or stack as the page from that post the other day; on aistudio it builds a web app across a few different files. It's still fairly concise but I don't think it's that much so.

Re: Gemini 3

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Post by mccoyb »

dktp wrote: post #281
mccoyb wrote: post #138

I truly do not understand what plan to use so I can use this model for longer than ~2 minutes. Using Anthropic or OpenAI's models are incredibly straightforward -- pay us per month, here's the button you press, great. Where do I go for this for these Google models?

Google actually changed it somewhat recently (3 months ago, give or take) and you can use Gemini CLI with the "regular" Google AI Pro subscription (~22eur/month). Before that, it required a separate subscription I can't find the announcement anymore, but you can see it under benefits here https://support.google.com/googleone/answer/14534406?hl=en The initial separate subscriptions were confusing at best. Current situ…

I see -- but does this allow me to us the models within "Antigravity" with the same subscription?

I poked around and couldn't figure this out.

Re: Gemini 3

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Post by coffeebeqn »

aoeusnth1 wrote: post #272
serjester wrote: post #219

It's disappointing there's no flash / lite version - this is where Google has excelled up to this point.

Maybe they're slow rolling the announcements to be in the news more

Most likely. And/or they use the full model to train the smaller ones somehow

Re: Gemini 3

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Post by redbell »

bnchrch wrote: post #87

I've been so happy to see Google wake up. Many can point to a long history of killed products and soured opinions but you can't deny theyve been the great balancing force (often for good) in the industry. - Gmail vs Outlook - Drive vs Word - Android vs iOS - Worklife balance and high pay vs the low salary grind of before. Theyve done heaps for the industry. Im glad to see signs of life. Particularly in their P/E whic…

> Drive vs Word

You mean Drive vs OneDrive or, maybe Docs vs Word?

Re: Gemini 3

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Post by dyauspitr »

svantana wrote: post #84

Grok got to hold the top spot of LMArena-text for all of ~24 hours, good for them [1]. With stylecontrol enabled, that is. Without stylecontrol, gemini held the fort. [1] https://lmarena.ai/leaderboard/text

Grok is heavily censored though

Re: Gemini 3

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Post by stephc_int13 »

bnchrch wrote: post #87

I've been so happy to see Google wake up. Many can point to a long history of killed products and soured opinions but you can't deny theyve been the great balancing force (often for good) in the industry. - Gmail vs Outlook - Drive vs Word - Android vs iOS - Worklife balance and high pay vs the low salary grind of before. Theyve done heaps for the industry. Im glad to see signs of life. Particularly in their P/E whic…

Google is using the typical monopoly playbook as most other large orgs, and the world would be a "better place" if they are kept in check.

But at least this company is not run by a narcissistic sociopath.

Re: Gemini 3

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Post by LiamPowell »

thegrim33 wrote: post #266
dwringer wrote: post #236

Well, I tried a variation of a prompt I was messing with in Flash 2.5 the other day in a thread about AI-coded analog clock faces. Gemini Pro 3 Preview gave me a result far beyond what I saw with Flash 2.5, and got it right in a single shot.[0] I can't say I'm not impressed, even though it's a pretty constrained example. > Please generate an analog clock widget, synchronized to actual system time, with hands that upd…

"Allow access to Google Drive to load this Prompt." .... why? For what possible reason? No, I'm not going to give access to my privately stored file share in order to view a prompt someone has shared. Come on, Google.

You don't want to give Google access to files you've stored in Google Drive? It's also only access to an application specific folder, not all files.

Re: Gemini 3

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Post by mh- »

dboreham wrote: post #230
mccoyb wrote: post #138

I truly do not understand what plan to use so I can use this model for longer than ~2 minutes. Using Anthropic or OpenAI's models are incredibly straightforward -- pay us per month, here's the button you press, great. Where do I go for this for these Google models?

Also Google discontinues everything in short order, so personally I'm waiting until they haven't discontinued this for, say 6 months, before wasting time evaluating it.

It's really impressive how much damage they've done to early adoption by earning themselves this reputation.

I've even heard it in mainstream circles that have no idea what HN is, and aren't involved in tech.

Probably would have been cheaper to keep Google Reader running - kidding, but this is the first time I remember the gut punch of Google cancelling something I heavily used personally.

Re: Gemini 3

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Post by Yizahi »

rvz wrote: post #109

I expect almost no-one to read the Gemini 3 model card. But here is a damning excerpt from the early leaked model card from [0]: > The training dataset also includes: publicly available datasets that are readily downloadable; data obtained by crawlers; licensed data obtained via commercial licensing agreements; user data (i.e., data collected from users of Google products and services to train AI models, along with u…

By the year 2025 I think most of the HN regulars and IT people in general are so jaded regarding privacy that it is not even surprising anyone. I suspect all gmails were analyzed and read from the beginning of google age, so nothing really changed, they might as well just admit it.

Google is betting that moving email and cloud is such a giant hassle that almost no one will do it, and ditching YT and Maps is just impossible.

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