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Re: Gemini 3

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How long does it typically take after this to become available on https://gemini.google.com/app ? I would like to try the model, wondering if it's worth setting up billing or waiting. At the moment trying to use it in AI Studio (on the Free tier) just gives me "Failed to generate content, quota exceeded: you have reached the limit of requests today for this model. Please try again tomorrow."

It's available in cursor. Should be there pretty soon as well.

Re: Gemini 3

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> The Gemini app surpasses 650 million users per month, more than 70% of our Cloud customers use our AI, 13 million developers have built with our generative models, and that is just a snippet of the impact we’re seeing Not to be a negative nelly, but these numbers are definitely inflated due to Google literally pushing their AI into everything they can, much like M$. Can't even search google without getting an AI re…

This is benefit of bundling, I've been forecasting this for a long time - the only companies who would win the LLM race would be the megacorps bundling their offerings, and at most maybe OAI due to the sheer marketing dominance.

For example I don't pay for ChatGPT or Claude, even if they are better at certain tasks or in general. But I have Google One cloud storage sub for my photos and it comes with a Gemini Pro apparently (thanks to someone on HN for pointing it out). And so Gemini is my go to LLM app/service. I suspect the same goes for many others.

Re: Gemini 3

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> Since then, it’s been incredible to see how much people love it. AI Overviews now have 2 billion users every month.

Come on, you can’t be serious.

Re: Gemini 3

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post #104

Pretty happy the under 200k token pricing is staying in the same ballpark as Gemini 2.5 Pro: Input: $1.25 -> $2.00 (1M tokens) Output: $10.00 -> $12.00 Squeezes a bit more margin out of app layer companies, certainly, but there's a good chance that for tasks that really require a sota model it can be more than justified.

Every recent release has bumped the pricing significantly. If I was building a product and my margins weren’t incredible I’d be concerned. The input price almost doubled with this one.

I'm not sure how concerned people should be at the trend lines. If you're building a product that already works well, you shouldn't feel the need to upgrade to a larger parameter model. If your product doesn't work and the new architectures unlock performance that would let you have a feasible business, even a 2x on input tokens shouldn't be the dealbreaker.

If we're paying more for a more petaflop heavy model, it makes sense that costs would go up. What really would concern me is if companies start ratcheting prices up for models with the same level of performance. My hope is raw hardware costs and OSS releases keep a lid on the margin pressure.

Re: Gemini 3

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I think I am in this AI fatigue phase. I am past all hype with models, tools and agents and back to problem and solution approach, sometimes code gen with AI , sometimes think and ask for a piece of code. But not offloading to AI and buying all the bs, waiting it to do magic with my codebase.

I think it's fun to see what is not even considered magic anymore today.

People would have had a heart attack if they saw this 5 years ago for the first time. Now artificial brains are “meh” :)

Re: Gemini 3

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Well, I tried a variation of a prompt I was messing with in Flash 2.5 the other day in a thread about AI-coded analog clock faces. Gemini Pro 3 Preview gave me a result far beyond what I saw with Flash 2.5, and got it right in a single shot.[0] I can't say I'm not impressed, even though it's a pretty constrained example. > Please generate an analog clock widget, synchronized to actual system time, with hands that upd…

"Allow access to Google Drive to load this Prompt."

.... why? For what possible reason? No, I'm not going to give access to my privately stored file share in order to view a prompt someone has shared. Come on, Google.

Re: Gemini 3

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I've been so happy to see Google wake up. Many can point to a long history of killed products and soured opinions but you can't deny theyve been the great balancing force (often for good) in the industry. - Gmail vs Outlook - Drive vs Word - Android vs iOS - Worklife balance and high pay vs the low salary grind of before. Theyve done heaps for the industry. Im glad to see signs of life. Particularly in their P/E whic…

For what it's worth, most of those examples are acquisitions. That's not a hit against Google in particular. That's the way all big tech co's grow. But it's not necessarily representative of "innovation."

>most of those examples are acquisitions

Taking those products from where there were to the juggernauts they are today was not guaranteed to succeed, nor was it easy. And yes plenty of innovation happened with these products post aquisition.

Re: Gemini 3

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post #65

My favorite benchmark is to analyze a very long audio file recording of a management meeting and produce very good notes along with a transcript labeling all the speakers. 2.5 was decently good at generating the summary, but it was terrible at labeling speakers. 3.0 has so far absolutely nailed speaker labeling.

It's not even THAT hard. I am working on a side project that gets a podcast episode and then labels the speakers. It works.

Re: Gemini 3

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It still failed my image identification test ([a photoshopped picture of a dog with 5 legs]...please count the legs) that so far every other model has failed agonizingly, even failing when I tell them they are failing, and they tend to fight back at me. Gemini 3 however, while still failing, at least recognized the 5th leg, but thought the dog was...well endowed. The 5th leg however is clearly a leg, despite being wh…

Perception seems to be one of the main constraints on LLMs that not much progress has been made on. Perhaps not surprising, given perception is something evolution has worked on since the inception of life itself. Likely much, much more expensive computationally than it receives credit for.
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