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Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attracting controversy

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Re: Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attracting controversy

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It wasn't a targeted attack since they had no way of knowing where the pagers would end up in the second-hand market, as they were only activated years later.

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The “War on Terror” has addled peoples minds so harshly that the notion that there is actually a legal way to wage war seems preposterous - however, there is a “legal means by which to wage war” which does in fact protect you, citizen, and you should learn about it - because when your representatives (and by proxy: you) violate those laws, you become personally liable for the repercussions that other victims will prosecute on you, and your nation state:

https://www.icrc.org/en/law-and-policy/geneva-conventions-an...

If ‘no bomb/missile ever is a war crime’, then .. there is no such thing as “terrorism”, either. (Although the argument could be made that there is no such thing as ‘terrorism’ at all, and that indeed, the word terrorism is merely a propaganda crutch used to justify atrocities against so-called ‘lesser cultures’ deemed inferior by the same institutions which used to use the ‘n-word’ to justify their atrocities in decades past, too, before that became difficult to do ..)

You can indeed commit war crimes with sticks too, though, incidentally.

Re: Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attracting controversy

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I mean the world takes the view Israel is occupying and slowly invading more regions of Palestine.

I didn't make it up, the Balfour declaration makes it pretty clear, so if you're upset natives are attacking you what's your point exactly.

Anyway, point is Israel has almost always lied throughout it's genocide against Palestinians. The IOF has lied or distorted the truth in almost every statement, one which always comes to mind is the attack on the Christian hospital.

The Israeli government are liars, they have a whole online army dedicated to misinformation and the 5 D's. For them lying is just another effective weapon of war which must be utilised.

Re: Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attracting controversy

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Yes, software was involved in the pager attacks, and software can be used to overheat and cause malfunction(which in the case of lithium ion can cause explosions, hazardous gases, and fire). Another example of a software-based attack that damages hardware is Stuxnet(there were no explosives either as part of this attack).

Downvoting facts? You might not be thinking about this topic rationally.

well, your facts are wrong, because there were in fact explosives planted in there [1]

1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Lebanon_electronic_device...

Re: Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attracting controversy

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So, not Nelson Mandela. Not even his own children. Why do their voices matter to you?

And since you value their voices, why not his grandson's voice? Or do their voices only matter when they agree with yours? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45958241

Re: Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attracting controversy

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Who are these “Israel haters” on HN you’re referring to?

There are plenty of us on HN who believe in the Israeli peoples’ human rights just as seriously as we support those of the children of Gaza, too.

Those of us who actually care about civilized society, human rights, and international law also consider that there are plenty of Israeli citizens who are, themselves, victims of their own states acts of terrorism as well.

You are responsible for the crimes of your state, citizen. No amount of chicken-waving is going to absolve you of that fact.

The point of discussing the heinous nature of the pager attack is to prevent the precedent set by that attack from taking further victims.

It is not in the interests of Israeli citizens to have their war-crime committing state subjugate their societies’ commercial institutions to commit further atrocities.

Re: Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attracting controversy

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you probably need to throw away your phone. or something. because never mind of it apple/qualcomm/android/etc - one of R&D centers that all companies have in Israel developed part of it.

The controversy is Israeli remote control over all these phones. Not Israeli R&D contributing to a component. Edit: I know what they wrote

parent said "anything israeli". phones are partially israeli. including baseband firmware and stuff.
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