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Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attracting controversy

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Re: Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attracting controversy

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SpyApps everywhere. Hopefully one day we not only have open software, open hardware but also reproducibly guaranteed secure systems. Now I don't have any idea how this could be verified (and no, Microsoft's "Trusted Computing" is not what I have in mind), but I hope we'll see to this eventually.

If you don’t trust a centralized authority you need decentralized governance…

Re: Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attracting controversy

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Opposing a specific organization for engaging in specific acts is a lot less objectionable than discriminating based on national origin.

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Re: Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attracting controversy

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I recently bought a cheap android device because I needed to test something on Android. The setup was about 3 hours of the device starting up, asking me questions, installing apps I explicitly told it not to, and then all sorts of other apps and OS updates trying to do their thing seemingly at once. I wasn't even transferring data, just a brand new phone, new google account. What a horrible experience you get with so…

This is why custom ROM support is the first question I ask when buying a new Android phone

Re: Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attracting controversy

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FUD and rationalising. We do understand the real reason they don't like it. By the way, in the Arab world (my reading of "some West Asian and North African markets". Nice euphemism, btw) there isn't the same stigma as in the West so they usually don't feel the need to be cautious and say exactly what they mean, i.e. "the Jews".

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99.9% of jews from north africa had to leave their homes after 1948 or after 1967. so saying that those countries "host jewish comminutes of their own" is far fetched

morocco went from 250000 to 2000

algeria went from 130000 to 200

tunisia went from 105000 to 1000

libya went from 40000 to 0

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maghrebi_Jews#Communities

Re: Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attracting controversy

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I agree, and that's the exact point I would make. The problem though, is I want a small phone with a headphone jack (and a physical keyboard, but that's orthogonal to the point). Many OEMs sell their flagship as a shiny glass slab with only BT or USB-C for audio, and ship 3.5mm jacks and other "antiquated niceties" like a uSD card reader, on their lower-end models. It's difficult to square the circle of "I want these…

The "Sony Xperia 5 V" (I have the previous "Sony Xperia 5 IV") has a headphone jack, takes a uSD card, and is somewhat compact. (And no silly camera cutout in the screen, it's in a reasonably small bezel.) EDIT: also see the Xperia 10 VII for a phone that isn't 2 years old (I haven't been keeping up, I buy phones to use for 4+ years)

According to the specs it's 154 x 68 x 8.6 mm and 182 grams, so it's more compact than most phones of 2025 but not really compact. My Samsung A40 is smaller and lighter but it's 4 years older.

Re: Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attracting controversy

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> You’re telling me pagers used by a terrorist organization ending up in the second-hand market. Four children were killed and dozens of _innocent_ bystanders were injured. > What do you know about Lebanon and Hezbollah? It's a conflict that's been going on for 30 years that I can remember and I don't think that more kinetic operations are going to accomplish anything other than fomenting an actual genocide. Did you…

>Four children were killed and dozens of _innocent_ bystanders were injured.

Compared to thousands of Hezbollah members. Literally one of the most targeted large-scale attacks of all time. There are effectively zero other military means that would have been even close to as selective and discriminant. Would you prefer they drop a 500lb bomb on each of their houses instead?

Re: Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attracting controversy

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Uhhhh, not sure about you, but I wouldn't want anything Israeli within 10m of my phone.

you probably need to throw away your phone. or something. because never mind of it apple/qualcomm/android/etc - one of R&D centers that all companies have in Israel developed part of it.

The controversy is Israeli remote control over all these phones. Not Israeli R&D contributing to a component.

Edit: I know what they wrote

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