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USDA head says 'everyone' on SNAP will now have to reapply

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Re: USDA head says 'everyone' on SNAP will now have to reapply

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Post by mcsonka »

insane_dreamer wrote: post #62
CodingJeebus wrote: post #8

For perspective, SNAP constitutes somewhere around 1.5% of the total Federal budget[0], and provides supplemental income for over 41M Americans[1]. So they're making everyone reapply because their disbursement headcount is off by less than 1% (180k vs 41M). It's hard not look at stuff like this and not see gross oppression. 0: https://usafacts.org/answers/how-much-does-the-federal-gover... 1: https://www.cbpp.org/res…

Half of my tax dollars (excluding SS/medicare taxes) go the military and subsidizing an entire defense industry, companies like Boeing, Lockheed etc. So some of my tax dollars going to a few people who aren’t eligible for SNAP benefits is the very least of my concerns.

> a few people

41M is more than population of Poland, Canada, or Ukraine

Re: USDA head says 'everyone' on SNAP will now have to reapply

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Post by aeternum »

insane_dreamer wrote: post #64
karakot wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hate this common trope about health food costing more. Beans, lentil, rice, potatos, carrots, onions, cabbage, garlic don't cost a lot, add some additional cheap proteins like chicken and eggs and you're good to go for like $50 or less per week per person. And if you can buy in bulk and freeze, then it can get even cheaper.

It’s not a tripe. A lot of these aren’t even available in food deserts, whereas soda and garbage is ubiquitous in every corner stores and gas station etc.

Could it be because we are subsidizing that soda and garbage via SNAP? Especially in low income areas?

As the great Charlie M used to say: "Show me the incentives and I'll show you the outcome"

but we can't change it because that means we are making poor people miserable

Re: USDA head says 'everyone' on SNAP will now have to reapply

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Post by insane_dreamer »

aeternum wrote: post #102
insane_dreamer wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s not a tripe. A lot of these aren’t even available in food deserts, whereas soda and garbage is ubiquitous in every corner stores and gas station etc.

Could it be because we are subsidizing that soda and garbage via SNAP? Especially in low income areas? As the great Charlie M used to say: "Show me the incentives and I'll show you the outcome" but we can't change it because that means we are making poor people miserable

That is part of the problem, yes. Not SNAP itself, which is good, but the fact that it can be used to buy garbage.

You should be restricted from buying soft drinks, chips, candy, etc. with SNAP/EBT, just like you can't buy cigarettes and alcohol with it. But nobody is willing to take on BigFood, and are content to let them prey on the poor with taxpayers footing the bill.

The second problem though is that if you restrict SNAP eligible food, you still have to provide healthy alternatives -- fresh veggies, fruit, grains, etc. -- at subsidized prices for SNAP recipients so they can actually survive on it.

It's such a shameful situation, and one that gets very little attention from either party.

Re: USDA head says 'everyone' on SNAP will now have to reapply

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Post by insane_dreamer »

mcsonka wrote: post #101
insane_dreamer wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Half of my tax dollars (excluding SS/medicare taxes) go the military and subsidizing an entire defense industry, companies like Boeing, Lockheed etc. So some of my tax dollars going to a few people who aren’t eligible for SNAP benefits is the very least of my concerns.

> a few people 41M is more than population of Poland, Canada, or Ukraine

41M is the _total_ number of people receiving SNAP. 180K is the guesstimated number of people getting it but _possibly_ ineligible for it.

Re: USDA head says 'everyone' on SNAP will now have to reapply

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Post by wakawaka28 »

exe34 wrote: post #100
wakawaka28 wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>why didn't you try fraud if you think it's so easy? Because I'm not a criminal? I have too much to lose, and frankly I don't know the system. I know roughly the kinds of things that would get me paid but it's not easy for an honest person. Some of the fraud is also, no doubt, in the form of under-reporting income or not updating the records with your current household status. >It's mindboggling to see you argue that…

Industry doesn't get flooded - rich people flood it with immigrants so they can pay less. the politicians are bought by the rich.

I mean industry as a sphere of human activity, not industry as a collection of corporate interests. Of course it's all about money, but that doesn't excuse all the plebs who have been brainwashed into supporting infinite immigration.
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