It's been long enough now that we should all be learning something. If its a "1st Gen" product or doesn't have an "S" on the product name, ignore it..
The iPad 1
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#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is there an official (by Google) upgrade to Android 4.1 for the Nexus One?
The real reason here is a technical limitation. The Nexus One and many other devices from that generation have very little ROM space. Typically Even with custom ICS and JB roms this is a problem, but there people know what they are getting into before hand, and also for rooted devices, there's ext2sd which basically uses your sdcard to store user data. Google fixed this with Nexus S and forwards. So we have to wait a…
If you look at the track record, they treat the current generation Nexus very well, and older models less so. Forget about ICS, the Nexus One didn't get Gingerbread for over 4 months after it was released. It did, however, get Froyo almost instantly, just like the Galaxy Nexus recently got JB almost instantly.
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#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
Mostly browsing (new Chrome works well), Netflix, LogMeIn Ignition for remote desktop, photo viewing, Skype. Compared to my new MacBook Air it does seems a little slow starting apps, etc, but the thing is almost 2 1/2 years old, still has good battery life, and basically does everything I want. I think I've got my money's worth already, and expect to keep using it in the future. BTW, cost of those iOS upgrades - $0.…
I have an iPad 1 myself, and I am looking to replace it. Browsing - complex pages (techcrunch is one particular abomination) have a tendency to crash Safari. Chrome was far too slow to bother with. Old Twitter app was crashing several times when loading in-app browser. Applications in general tend to quit a lot. It worked wonderfully when it was out, but its barely usable now.
I get the Safari crashes too. the App Store is the worst though, seems to crash every other time I use it.
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#74When the iPad 1 launched in germany, i bought a 64GB model with 3G. I payed more than 800 Euros. And now Apple tells me "it's to old, go and sell it on eBay for 150 bucks". Are you fucking kidding me? I'm a Apple user for ages, i have two Mac Pros, three MacBook Pros (family), one MacBook Air and all iPhones that Apple ever made. I sold every old piece of hardware or replaced it when i needed a faster or newer model.…
I'm curious how long Google will provide updates to the Nexus 7 after they stop selling it? What's a "reasonable" time?
I would hope 3 years or so. At least in the case of the Nexus 7 being supported in AOSP it is likely community developers will keep it updated after Google drops official support.
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#75Here's an idea: The moment the device is no longer supported, unlock the bootloader. If you really felt philanthropic, release some docs on the hardware interfaces. This way Linux / *BSD / Haiku / whatever could be ported and extend the usable life of the device. This would foster a thriving second hand market, massively reduce the security risks that users of the older devices are exposed to, help clear old stock, k…
Why ? The device still works on iOS5 and will still run 99% of the apps available today and over the next few years. Most developers are still going to be targeting iOS4+ for a while to come.
Eleven good reasons:
mfincham@desktop:~/Desktop$ grep "Subject:" Furthermore, "next few years" seems quite optimistic to me. There's no harm in unlocking these unsupported devices, then people can EITHER run iOS 4/5 and live with the flaws OR run their own code. Nobody loses!
(Note as well that the bugs are things like "loading a web page could result in arbitrary code execution").
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#76What trouble me is when there's a new apple release, older devices seems to automagically slow down.
When I first bought the ipad1, it was crazy fast. Everyone was amazed about the speed things would move and open. Now, everything is do damn painful to use.. it's lagging and taking eternity to do trivial tasks. (And by the way, I've formatted it and there's practically nothing on it).
My guess would be that more recent os use more memory to be more efficient on newer devices while rendering older devices slower.
I hope it's the reason, and not a voluntary "let's slow you down so you buy a new one".
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#77By far the worst thing about this is there will never be an improved web browser on the iPad... ever. Because of Apple ridiculous aversion to altenate web browsers (that don't use the Safari engine) no third party will be able to deliver a new web browser.
Years from now the iPad 1 will still be using outdated HTML5 specs, and old version of the web socket protocol, and will never have new wen technologies added to it. Apple has ensured this device remains technologically frozen in time forever.
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#78What trouble me is when there's a new apple release, older devices seems to automagically slow down. When I first bought the ipad1, it was crazy fast. Everyone was amazed about the speed things would move and open. Now, everything is do damn painful to use.. it's lagging and taking eternity to do trivial tasks. (And by the way, I've formatted it and there's practically nothing on it). My guess would be that more rece…
Couldn't it be just perception? I still use an iPhone 3G and I remember I did not want to touch the iPhone 4 when it came out because it was a lot faster than my old 3G and I would realize it even more before playing with a 4. Now I've used a lot a 4S and the 3G is slow as hell, but I would think it is just my perception.
I use an iPad 1 and haven't used any new one for more than 5 minutes and the iPad 1 feels exactly as fast as when I first bought it.
I think the same thing happens in computers. I run a hackintosh machine with an SSD and pretty good hardware and the other day I was putting together an old PC to run MAME (I'm building an arcade cabinet) and god, the thing is slow as hell. I'm sure it was just as slow then I was using it (Pentium D with 3 Gigs of RAM), it just that we are used to be faster now.
EDIT: Note that new app versions probably ARE slower than older ones in old hardware. If the developer is using the last iPad available to test and neglecting older hardware is what happens. Back when I did native apps we used the best hardware available to develop and low-medium end to test in order to avoid this and optimize our code for speed on not-so-new hardware.
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#79How much more would it have cost to put an extra 256MB in the original iPad? Apple has more money in the bank than they know what to do with; over $100B. It might be a better use of the money to give a little extra RAM to make their devices run better.
Apple didn't get that money taking low margins on hardware. Overall this probably helps their new iPad sales, the vocal minority complain and everyone else probably either stays on ios5 or upgrades.
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#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
Android? You knew about your iPad being closed, why did you buy it in the first place?
First, Android tablets did not exist back then. Second, the same problem is true for Android. How many smartphones sold last year will never see jelly bean? If my Atrix wasn't rooted, Id still be on gingerbread. These devices have a one-year, two-max "relevant life expectancy". That's a shame. Both ecologically and ethically.
Um, Android tablets predate the iPad:
http://phandroid.com/2009/11/11/archos-5-android-internet-ta...
Granted, they weren't very good and didn't come with Google apps, but they did exist.