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Re: New users: Welcome. Please read the site guidelines.

#31

A suggestion: Any chance that news stories could be throttled or more heavily edited/moderated just after a spike in new users? Just a thought, it could help to filter out those who are interested versus those just looking for another forum to do their usual thing on.

Apparently, they already are: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=435705

Re: New users: Welcome. Please read the site guidelines.

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That principle doesn't work online. In general you can say stuff to people in person that's insulting and abusive, and then just give a wry smile and everybody laughs. You can't do that online. The guideline has it exactly wrong. The problem is that what you say online about someone is frozen forever, and takes on more significance than either the sender or the receiver actually meant. In person, I call you an asshol…

Some percentage of the nasty things people say on web forums are said half-jokingly and offend because half-jokingness is hard to convey in text, but I think the majority are genuinely nasty.

Have you considered asking new users to enter their first and second names, and creating an available username from that?

This is often credited for Facebook having more 'real' content than MySpace and Friendster.

Re: New users: Welcome. Please read the site guidelines.

#33
I honestly hope that HN news does not degenerate into another reddit or digg-like news sites where comments and content are full of dramatized and useless material.

So far, I've found the users of this site intellectual, technical and insightful in their comments and as a result, its been a joy to participate in this community and I hope the crowd which this site attract remain the same - smart and technical people.

Re: New users: Welcome. Please read the site guidelines.

#34

A suggestion: Any chance that news stories could be throttled or more heavily edited/moderated just after a spike in new users? Just a thought, it could help to filter out those who are interested versus those just looking for another forum to do their usual thing on.

The problem is more in the comments. The character of the submissions hasn't changed much.

The best way to deal with nasty comments by new users may be just to ask them to stop. Several times lately I've noticed established users doing that, e.g.

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=457319

Re: New users: Welcome. Please read the site guidelines.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some percentage of the nasty things people say on web forums are said half-jokingly and offend because half-jokingness is hard to convey in text, but I think the majority are genuinely nasty.

Have you considered asking new users to enter their first and second names, and creating an available username from that? This is often credited for Facebook having more 'real' content than MySpace and Friendster.

Enforcing specific types of usernames is rather lame. People would just enter fake names. Facebook depends on your real identity so people who have met you can locate you.

Re: New users: Welcome. Please read the site guidelines.

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Curiously PG posting this gets 50 karma and counting, someone else posted a similar thing earlier in the week and got flagged dead. I don't want to see this topic regularly but maybe the guidelines could be made more prominent for new users?

Good idea. I should add some kind of welcome page.

Re: New users: Welcome. Please read the site guidelines.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you considered asking new users to enter their first and second names, and creating an available username from that? This is often credited for Facebook having more 'real' content than MySpace and Friendster.

Enforcing specific types of usernames is rather lame. People would just enter fake names. Facebook depends on your real identity so people who have met you can locate you.

Some people may enter fake names, but asking for their first and last names at least sets expectations.

As you've touched on, allowing people to find you on hacker news would also be a benefit.

Re: New users: Welcome. Please read the site guidelines.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Enforcing specific types of usernames is rather lame. People would just enter fake names. Facebook depends on your real identity so people who have met you can locate you.

Some people may enter fake names, but asking for their first and last names at least sets expectations. As you've touched on, allowing people to find you on hacker news would also be a benefit.

Usernames consisting of people's first and last names feels corporate. It would be a bummer not to have any mechanical_fishes.
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