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Re: 6B Miles Driven

#31

So Tesla is charging $8000 to activate full safety software features in their vehicles? How is this not way more controversial than having to pay extra to activate features like heated steering wheels in other brands?

It is supposed to include hardware upgrades too. Chevy and others upcharge for semi autonomous safety features too, but I'm not sure to what extent that is pure software or added hardware.

Re: 6B Miles Driven

#32
Interventions Elon, interventions.

Tesla really trying to engineer good will, and unsurprisingly only using their own data, which paves over things like "driver intervention prevented FSD from crashing in this instance" or "FSD disengaged 2s before crash, therefore driver error".

Rather than play statistics games with self-reported dressed up supervised driving data to try and trick people into rolling the mortality dice with a robotaxi, just let the cars drive around empty. But he can't do that, because these cars are not FSD.

Even worse, the government could easily mandate LIDAR for autonomous cars, and that would basically kill Tesla overnight.

Re: 6B Miles Driven

#34
post #3

Voyager 1 is 15B+ miles away. Kind of mind blowing.

Your mind will be really blown when you consider how far all people in the world walk in a week.

Re: 6B Miles Driven

#35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, only FSD is $8000. All of the safety features are free in every Tesla.

“Free” in what sense? After paying for a luxury product at premium prices, you’re getting exactly what you’re paying for, right?

In the sense that they're all always included in the base price of the vehicle, and never in optional packages that cost extra.

Re: 6B Miles Driven

#36
post #24

I have a 2018 Model 3 with basic autopilot. I have an FSD question. Does FSD have different driving behaviors from basic autopilot? I'm not saying "capabilities"; obviously it has more capabilities, but I mean the actual driving choices. I get that FSD (maybe) has/requires better hardware than my car. But what I hate about autopilot is all around basic driving: * Lane centering. It's extremely aggressive about lane c…

Basic autopilot is unrelated to FSD these days. Every aspect is improved.

Isn't there a trial you can try?

Re: 6B Miles Driven

#37
post #11

Given how famously the tesla switches self driving off moments before an accident, these statistics are impossible to trust (but also because musk is famously a liar)

From the article: > If FSD (Supervised) was active at any point within five seconds leading up to a collision event, Tesla considers the collision to have occurred with FSD (Supervised) engaged for purposes of calculating collision rates for the Vehicle Safety Report.

If it takes you off the road into the grass with no traction at 80mph it could reasonably be 5 seconds before you hit a tree.

Re: 6B Miles Driven

#38

I use it every single day and it is amazing! I have had my car for 6+ years now and it has only gotten better. Starting with "Navigate on Autopilot" when I originally got the car in 2019 which was pretty janky, it has only gotten better and better (with the rare regression in some cases). As of the last year or so, I don't even have to touch the steering wheel anymore!

I don't even have to touch the steering wheel anymore!

Is that legal where you live?

Re: 6B Miles Driven

#39

I use it every single day and it is amazing! I have had my car for 6+ years now and it has only gotten better. Starting with "Navigate on Autopilot" when I originally got the car in 2019 which was pretty janky, it has only gotten better and better (with the rare regression in some cases). As of the last year or so, I don't even have to touch the steering wheel anymore!

Yeah, I'll be honest, that sounds awful. I like public transit and I like driving myself. Hybridizing with me in the drivers seat but not touching the wheel sounds annoying and tiresome.

Re: 6B Miles Driven

#40

I use it every single day and it is amazing! I have had my car for 6+ years now and it has only gotten better. Starting with "Navigate on Autopilot" when I originally got the car in 2019 which was pretty janky, it has only gotten better and better (with the rare regression in some cases). As of the last year or so, I don't even have to touch the steering wheel anymore!

I don't even have to touch the steering wheel anymore! Is that legal where you live?

Even if it's legal, it's pretty stupid.
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