Given how famously the tesla switches self driving off moments before an accident, these statistics are impossible to trust (but also because musk is famously a liar)
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#13They do good marketing for sure. I would like to see same from Toyotas & Hondas of the world.
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#14Pretty amazing to have driven six billion miles with 7x less major accidents. How many lives have been saved?
Tesla appears to have an impressive history of automatically disengaging FSD immediately before a collision, and this page is quite light on details of what they’re comparing to what, so I would take it with a large grain of salt.
> and this page is quite light on details of what they’re comparing to what
In the page:
"If FSD (Supervised) was active at any point within five seconds leading up to a collision event, Tesla considers the collision to have occurred with FSD (Supervised) engaged for purposes of calculating collision rates for the Vehicle Safety Report."
They are pretty open about how the stats are reported.
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#15Pretty amazing to have driven six billion miles with 7x less major accidents. How many lives have been saved?
Tesla appears to have an impressive history of automatically disengaging FSD immediately before a collision, and this page is quite light on details of what they’re comparing to what, so I would take it with a large grain of salt.
True, we need to see the details of how they compute all this data. I do remember reading that they include crash data up to like a minute after FSD has been disengaged so these types of crashes should be included.
Nevertheless, the latest version of FSD I can certainly believe is seven times less likely to get into an accident than the average driver. I experienced it daily.
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Tesla appears to have an impressive history of automatically disengaging FSD immediately before a collision, and this page is quite light on details of what they’re comparing to what, so I would take it with a large grain of salt.
For how many seconds after FSD is disengaged do accidents still get attributed to FSD?
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#17It would be more meaningful if we could see the data controlled for all the factors auto insurance is priced on (driver age, zip code, credit score, vehicle age, etc.) Does Tesla offer massively lower insurance premiums for drivers that do the majority of their driving with FSD?
> Does Tesla offer massively lower insurance premiums for drivers that do the majority of their driving with FSD? Yes: https://www.tesla.com/support/insurance/fsd-discount
The discount is "up to 10%". I would call that a modest discount.
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Or they have eyes and ears and have seen the footage.
You realize that almost every politician has done a similar type of pose right? So if there’s a picture or a video of your favorite politician doing that pose you’re automatically going to assume they are Nazi?
Just a minimal knowledge of Musk‘s ties to Israel, and friendships with Netanyahu, Jared Kushner, and others you should realize that there’s no way he’s a Nazi or antisemitic. If anything, he is highly racist against Muslims.
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#19Given how famously the tesla switches self driving off moments before an accident, these statistics are impossible to trust (but also because musk is famously a liar)
From the article:
> If FSD (Supervised) was active at any point within five seconds leading up to a collision event, Tesla considers the collision to have occurred with FSD (Supervised) engaged for purposes of calculating collision rates for the Vehicle Safety Report.
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or they have eyes and ears and have seen the footage.
You realize that almost every politician has done a similar type of pose right? So if there’s a picture or a video of your favorite politician doing that pose you’re automatically going to assume they are Nazi? Just a minimal knowledge of Musk‘s ties to Israel, and friendships with Netanyahu, Jared Kushner, and others you should realize that there’s no way he’s a Nazi or antisemitic. If anything, he is highly racist…
There is a difference between waving and doing a Nazi salute. There is a difference between seeing a single frame of a wave out of context and a full video where he does it twice.