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Re: Unofficial Microsoft Teams client for Linux

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The official client is absolutely terrible. But, I've found a much better solution: I tell all my customers Microsoft Teams doesn't work for us and they'll have to pick something else. Kudos for at least trying to address this, MS should hang their head in shame, this is not the hardest problem to solve these days. If we could do it in 1995 they should be able to do it 30 years later.

I use Teams every day (for work, the company basically runs on it) for chat and meetings, and I'm one of those strange people who never really have much problem with it. I can think of one occasion in perhaps the last six months when it crashed and I had to kill and restart it. Otherwise it just sits there on my laptop and does its thing. Same with Outlook etc. So, what am I doing wrong? How do I get the authentic Te…

You're not doing it wrong, if anything I'm genuinely happy for you.

This isn't sarcasm or anything, I really mean it. If you're somehow on Teams' happy path and it does what you expect then I'm envious, I wish I was you and I am grateful that it's helpful to you at least.

For me, though, the frustration stems from being forced to use it at work, which amplifies every quirk tenfold. Minor annoyances like duplicated groups of the same people (splitting chat histories across sessions), the "every team is a SharePoint site" bloat, and the massive resource drain (though that's easing as hardware improves) add up fast.

That is to say that they also relay all of their calls through datacenters half a continent away, so if you're close to one of those then it's fine but the further you are the more likely you are to accidentally talk over people and so on, there's no peer-to-peer, even 1:1 calls are relayed with Teams; making Google Meet and Jitsi perform "better" (though people can't explain why).

Then there's the dev-side slop: mangled code snippets in chats, meeting controls jammed at the top (pulling your eyes away from the camera), and—God help you: if you've ever tried building chatops integrations on it, you'd break down and cry. Like, real, actual office-bathroom breakdown tears.

Re: Unofficial Microsoft Teams client for Linux

#122

The official client is absolutely terrible. But, I've found a much better solution: I tell all my customers Microsoft Teams doesn't work for us and they'll have to pick something else. Kudos for at least trying to address this, MS should hang their head in shame, this is not the hardest problem to solve these days. If we could do it in 1995 they should be able to do it 30 years later.

I use Teams every day (for work, the company basically runs on it) for chat and meetings, and I'm one of those strange people who never really have much problem with it. I can think of one occasion in perhaps the last six months when it crashed and I had to kill and restart it. Otherwise it just sits there on my laptop and does its thing. Same with Outlook etc. So, what am I doing wrong? How do I get the authentic Te…

Same for me, it works and allows me to do what I need to do. It does it neither gracefully or efficiently, but I think that's down to it trying to be everything at once, and the UI suffers as a result.

The main thing that trips me up is that I often confuse my Outlook calendar for me Teams calendar - because they look almost the same but work completely differently.

Re: Unofficial Microsoft Teams client for Linux

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There's something weird going on honestly. On an i9-14900K, arguably one of the fastest CPUs in the previous few years (and excusing their design defect that causes them to die); Teams is significantly slower than on the Quallcom Snapdragon X-Elite, or my Macbook. It seems to perform the same as it would on an i9 platform as it does on i5 laptop's of the same generation (in terms of input latency and drawing to the s…

Hypothesis: that Qualcomm and that Macbook have higher memory bandwidth than your i9 system. This is dependent on your memory and your mainboard, not so much on the CPU itself. Perhaps Teams just uses way too much memory, and actually uses it all the time.

That is an interesting hypothesis, and makes sense based on the generationality of the issue.

An i5-14500 has a comparable memory bandwidth as an i9-14900k

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/compare.htm...

Re: Unofficial Microsoft Teams client for Linux

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I am always amazed at how people can put so much effort into something that will very likely be killed or made impossible by the vendor. Reminds me of that iMessage client for android. It lasted what, a couple weeks of cat and mouse?

I enjoy the cat-and-mouse!

I've been writing the Teams plugin for Pidgin for the past few years and its great to be able to give users the kind of features or privacy options that you'd never get from official clients, while learning lots of fun ways (ab)using web tech to solve problems.

Like how in Teams, it does a "reverse webhook" to push presence notifications to a web client acting as a server over a websocket

Re: Unofficial Microsoft Teams client for Linux

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The web-based one works perfectly on Linux. If anything it's better than the native Windows app. Office 365 actually works better in Firefox in Linux than any other browser in Windows. It's like they've kind of given up on the whole OS thing, and have just decided to go with Linux.

True! I've been doing this for years on Linux. I use a dedicated Chromium instance in app mode: /usr/bin/chromium --ozone-platform=wayland --enable-features=UseOzonePlatform,WaylandWindowDecorations,WebRTCPipeWireCapturer --user-data-dir=/home/myuser/.config/chromium-ilri --app=https://teams.microsoft.com Works incredibly well (put this in a `.desktop` file with `Exec=` and you can launch it via your desktop's launch…

Would be great if it was also possible to have it open the Team URIs in that App Mode instance instead of the browser itself — I assume it does not.

Re: Unofficial Microsoft Teams client for Linux

#128

The official client is absolutely terrible. But, I've found a much better solution: I tell all my customers Microsoft Teams doesn't work for us and they'll have to pick something else. Kudos for at least trying to address this, MS should hang their head in shame, this is not the hardest problem to solve these days. If we could do it in 1995 they should be able to do it 30 years later.

I really don't get what that team is up to, even ICQ would be so much better.

Re: Unofficial Microsoft Teams client for Linux

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Teams is literally the worst program I have ever used. Whoever designed that interface should be publicly shamed.

Like many I use a variety on those chat programs, Zulip for my companies, Slack for some customers, good old IRC for some open source things, Discord for gaming, ... They all have some strenght and some weakness. But then Teams keeps showing up because "everyone knows it", "you already have it through office", ... And somehow I can't name a single strenght for it. It's just plain bad. It reminds me of the galaxy of "…

Couldn't agree more.

Re: Unofficial Microsoft Teams client for Linux

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Teams is literally the worst program I have ever used. Whoever designed that interface should be publicly shamed.

As bad as teams is, there is absolutely no comparison to the crap that is slack. Just a number of things I regularly encounter: 1. Slack selecting speakers instead of headphones for call, even though I've used the headphones just before. 2. Calls ringing on my mobile that has been quietly sitting on the desk, instead of on the desktop that I've been typing on. 3. Mobile and desktop client being completely out of sync…

At least Slack knows about threading conversations.
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