The level of elitism in the Ruby and by extension Rails communities never ceases to amaze me. Having attended several ruby and rails conferences over the last few years, the belief that Ruby is the language of "good programmers" is so prevalent as to be off putting.
Will Rails be the new PHP?
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Re: Will Rails be the new PHP?
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#23um no? PHP "has a relatively small community, with the majority of people working under the radar and on their own?" ? Where is he getting these stats? relative to what? For instance http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.... Says PHP the language is more popular than Ruby the language (let alone the subset of Ruby programmers who use Rails). I don't get where that perceived smallness comes from.…
Re: Will Rails be the new PHP?
#24um no? PHP "has a relatively small community, with the majority of people working under the radar and on their own?" ? Where is he getting these stats? relative to what? For instance http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.... Says PHP the language is more popular than Ruby the language (let alone the subset of Ruby programmers who use Rails). I don't get where that perceived smallness comes from.…
1) userbase is not a community, usergroups and such are. 2) the sub-par php code thing? go post on place like craig's list, where the uninformed who need developers might post things, and see what kind of developers respond. go look at wordpress plugins. go look at tutorials and examples on blogs. while yes, there are certainly well qualified php programmers, you're going to see a lot of horrifying code.
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#26And i really don't understand why particularly rails developers looks down to newcomers. If you want to help your community just write tutorials, share your experiences from real life, help to newbies and make other's life easier. If you want to entertain other peopler, well , just write crappy blog posts with such title like " Will X be new Y ? "[1]
[1] : But please read first the article about "Betteridge's Law of Headlines" on Wikipedia.
Re: Will Rails be the new PHP?
#27Yes.
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#28If you want to compare something to PHP compare it to Ruby.
Comparing Rails and PHP is just plain dumb.
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#29 PHP 78.1%
ASP.NET 21.0%
Java 4.0%
ColdFusion 1.1%
Perl 0.9%
Ruby 0.5%
Python 0.2%
http://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/programming_languag...Re: Will Rails be the new PHP?
#30It's the strangest thing. It's like having a blog and access to Hacker News makes self-proclaimed "seasoned" programers forget that they, too, probably had really crappy code when they started programming. Instead of bashing green programmers who coincidentally became interested programming at the same time that Rails makes it so easy to start, why not offer them up a list of resources to make them better? Humans are…
He's not bashing green programmers. He's bashing on programmers with years under their belt who never got any better, and don't participate in any community.
No, he really isn't. He is totally bashing green programmers.