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The disguised return of EU Chat Control

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Re: The disguised return of EU Chat Control

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post #35

This is an asymmetric conflict. The factions who want this to pass have more resources, time and background influence and can keep pushing this until they get lucky. And once in place repealing it will be tremendously difficult. How does society resolve this kind of abuse of the democratic process? It is a dynamic that is repeated in many areas.

> How does society resolve this kind of abuse of the democratic process?

Other than hoping for a large meteorite or the second coming to end this misery, or stirring up the bloodbath a la Nepal - then, by recognizing the power of large numbers of people doing little things, like sabotaging the system at the personal level. But that implies unity, and unity and mutual support have been deliberately annihilated in this society for too long. Thus, this outcome is even less probable than the first two.

Re: The disguised return of EU Chat Control

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post #35

This is an asymmetric conflict. The factions who want this to pass have more resources, time and background influence and can keep pushing this until they get lucky. And once in place repealing it will be tremendously difficult. How does society resolve this kind of abuse of the democratic process? It is a dynamic that is repeated in many areas.

We stop allowing the rich to become so rich. Billionares are not compatible with democracy or the greater good.

What happens when you get what you want, and rather than magically solving every problem confronting society, it doesn't solve anything at all, and in fact creates several more problems, as generally happens when such ideas are put into practice?

What's plan B? Lower the threshold to a million dollars?

Re: The disguised return of EU Chat Control

#47
post #35

This is an asymmetric conflict. The factions who want this to pass have more resources, time and background influence and can keep pushing this until they get lucky. And once in place repealing it will be tremendously difficult. How does society resolve this kind of abuse of the democratic process? It is a dynamic that is repeated in many areas.

We stop allowing the rich to become so rich. Billionares are not compatible with democracy or the greater good.

This seems to be more about political power and government overreach than money. The narrative seems to be focused solely on concentration of the later, lately.

Re: The disguised return of EU Chat Control

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(6) Online child sexual abuse frequently involves the misuse of information society services offered in the Union by providers established in third countries. In order to ensure the effectiveness of the rules laid down in this Regulation and a level playing field within the internal market, those rules should apply to all providers, irrespective of their place of establishment or residence, that offer services in the…

So they’re asking American companies to repeal the first amendment rights of American citizens on all websites accessible in the EU.

How this not a declaration of war?

Re: The disguised return of EU Chat Control

#49

Eternal vigilance is needed to stop this. Good luck! It will take just one (manufactured) crisis.

We have to win every time. They only have to win once and it's game over.

Why can't we put up legislation to repeal over and over until it is repealed?

Re: The disguised return of EU Chat Control

#50

what is it they’re so concerned about people talking about these days exactly anyway?

Gotta make sure you aren’t saying the wrong things, like criticising rich and powerful people.

people have been doing that for a long time, but the level of urgency from the system hasn’t been at this level.
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