I want as little AI in my life as possible, and I certainly want zero of it forced on me.
I think nobody wants AI in Firefox, Mozilla
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Re: I think nobody wants AI in Firefox, Mozilla
#272Earlier quoted context omitted.
browser.ml.chat.enabled set to false browser.ml.chat.menu set to false browser.ml.chat.page set to false browser.ml.chat.page.footerBadge set to false browser.ml.chat.page.menuBadge set to false browser.ml.chat.shortcuts set to false browser.ml.chat.sidebar set to false browser.ml.enable set to false browser.ml.linkPreview.enabled set to false browser.ml.pageAssist.enabled set to false browser.tabs.groups.smart.enabl…
So sick of all these hacks. I've been a Firefox user for decades but it's time to throw in the towel.
> it's time to throw in the towel
And do what? Use a Chromium-based browser, which is infinitely worse?
Re: I think nobody wants AI in Firefox, Mozilla
#273Mozilla has lost the plot. People support Mozilla because they want a strong, independent browser, not so staff can siphon money into side projects that exist mainly to look good on someone’s resume. Things like Transformer Lab have nothing to do with Firefox and nothing to do with the mission Mozilla claims to care about. This isn’t innovation. Leadership keeps green-lighting trendy distractions while the browser th…
>refocus on the one thing that still gives the organization a reason to exist: building a great browser
Considering their existence depends on Google's money, it's to their best interest for the browser to lag behind Chrome.
Re: I think nobody wants AI in Firefox, Mozilla
#274It is just a question of how long can Mozilla hold its ground with useless initiatives like this which are not what their core user base wants.
Firefox and Thunderbird, that is it. Everything else was just a ridiculous time and money sink which should've just been spent on those core products.
Re: I think nobody wants AI in Firefox, Mozilla
#275What, of course we do?
Summarizing, explaining pages directly, without copying to another app. Reading pages out aloud. Maybe even orchestrating research sessions, by searching and organizing...
Re: I think nobody wants AI in Firefox, Mozilla
#276counterpoint: I want AI in firefox
there's so much stuff that could get much better if they invested more in AI features -- tab grouping, translation, ad blockers; why are people so triggered? because it might end up being bad?
Re: I think nobody wants AI in Firefox, Mozilla
#277Firefox is dead. You need an insurmountable amount of configuration to even make it bearable and there is non-user respecting settings and telemetry everywhere. Ads, too. It's not something you can recommend, every site is broken and Mozilla rather likes to spend it's money on [1] discouraging human translators and [2] giving people free coffee on "Browser Raves" in Berlin instead. It's a shadow of its former self.
[1] https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/forums/contributors/717446
Re: I think nobody wants AI in Firefox, Mozilla
#278Go to about:config and set browser.ml.enabled to false and throw in browser.ml.chat.enabled (false) for good measure. Done.
You'd think so, but you also need to set browser.ml.chat.menu to false to remove a context menu item.
Looking at https://searchfox.org/firefox-main/source/browser/components... it is a bit weird, that there isn't a general check for browser.ml.enabled true/false.
Re: I think nobody wants AI in Firefox, Mozilla
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In firefox yeah! I use it often. I have it connected to a local Gemma model running in ollama and use it to quickly summarize webpages, nobody really wants to read 15 minutes worth of personal anecdotes before getting to that one paragraph that actually has relevant information, and for finding information within a page, kinda like ctrl-f on steroids. The machine is sitting there anyway and the extra cost in electric…
Something like this I wouldn't mind, privacy focused local only models that allow you to use your own existing services. Can you give a quick pointer on how to connect Firefox to Ollama?
Use openwebui with ollama.
Openwebui is compatible with the firefox sidebar.
So grab ollama and your prefered model.
Install openwebui.
Connect openwebui to ollama
Then in firwdox open about:config
And set browser.ml.chat.provider to your local openwebui instance
Google suggests the you might also need to set browser.ml.chat.hideLocalhost to false. But i dont remember having to do that
Re: I think nobody wants AI in Firefox, Mozilla
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I would have loved to see them leverage their browser to make a distributed social network, back when they had enough market share to attempt such a thing. An open slack-alike also seems like a good fit for them. Alas, they have tons of cash but little capacity to do anything useful.
Mozilla has started so many incredibly ambitious projects: Firefox OS, Rust, Servo/Stylo, Quantum... A slack-alike would at best give them a +1 against killedbygoogle.com. Yep, a federated social network is indeed an ambitious problem, perhaps Mozilla would've been well-suited to tackle it. The problem is not the tech or scope, but timing. 15 years ago everyone was happy to be on FB / Twitter. 10 years ago, Microsoft…
"but had no idea what federation is, or why it's important"
Maybe the ideal technical solution would not require them to know?