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GPT-5.1: A smarter, more conversational ChatGPT
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Re: GPT-5.1: A smarter, more conversational ChatGPT
#82I don't want a more conversational GPT. I want the _exact_ opposite. I want a tool with the upper limit of "conversation" being something like LCARS from Star Trek. This is quite disappointing as a current ChatGPT subscriber.
That's what the personality selector is for: you can just pick 'Efficient' (formerly Robot) and it does a good job of answering tersely? https://share.cleanshot.com/9kBDGs7Q
Unfortunately, I also don't want other people to interact with a sycophantic robot friend, yet my picker only applies to my conversation
Re: GPT-5.1: A smarter, more conversational ChatGPT
#83The gpt5-pro model hasn't been updated I assume?
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#84This thing sounds like Grok now. Gross.
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#85Interesting that they're releasing separate gpt-5.1-instant and gpt-5.1-thinking models. The previous gpt-5 release made of point of simplifying things by letting the model choose if it was going to use thinking tokens or not. Seems like they reversed course on that?
> For the first time, GPT‑5.1 Instant can use adaptive reasoning to decide when to think before responding to more challenging questions
It seems to still do that. I don't know why they write "for the first time" here.
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#86Gemini 2.5 Pro is still my go to LLM of choice. Haven't used any OpenAI product since it released, and I don't see any reason why I should now.
I would use it exclusively if Google released a native Mac app. I spend 75% of my time in Codex CLI and 25% in the Mac ChatGPT app. The latter is important enough for me to not ditch GPT and I'm honestly very pleased with Codex. My API usage for software I build is about 90% Gemini though. Again their API is lacking compared to OpenAI's (productization, etc.) but the model wins hands down.
I've installed it as a PWA on mac and it pretty much solves it for me
Re: GPT-5.1: A smarter, more conversational ChatGPT
#87Re: GPT-5.1: A smarter, more conversational ChatGPT
#88Gemini 2.5 Pro is still my go to LLM of choice. Haven't used any OpenAI product since it released, and I don't see any reason why I should now.
No matter how I tried, Google AI did not want to help me write appeal brief response to ex-wife lunatic 7-point argument that 3 appellant lawyers quoted between $18,000 and $35,000. The last 3 decades of Google's scars and bruises of never-ending lawsuits and consequences of paying out billions in fines and fees, felt like reasonable hesitation on Google part, comparing to new-kid-on-the-block ChatGPT who did not hes…
AI not writing legal briefs for you is a feature, not a bug. There's been so many disaster instances of lawyers using ChatGPT to write briefs which it then hallucinates case law or precedent for that I can only imagine Google wants to sidestep that entirely.
Anyway I found your response itself a bit incomprehensible so I asked Gemini to rewrite it:
"Google AI refused to help write an appeal brief response to my ex-wife's 7-point argument, likely due to its legal-risk aversion (billions in past fines). Newcomer ChatGPT provided a decent response instead, which led to the ex losing her appeal (saving $18k–$35k in lawyer fees)."
Not bad, actually.
Re: GPT-5.1: A smarter, more conversational ChatGPT
#89isn't that weird there are no benchmarks included on this release?
For 5.1-thinking, they show that 90th-percentile-length conversations are have 71% longer reasoning and 10th-percentile-length ones are 57% shorter
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#90I don't want a more conversational GPT. I want the _exact_ opposite. I want a tool with the upper limit of "conversation" being something like LCARS from Star Trek. This is quite disappointing as a current ChatGPT subscriber.
Exactly. Stop fooling people into thinking there’s a human typing on the other side of the screen. LLMs should be incredibly useful productivity tools, not emotional support.
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