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Re: Bootstrap Maintainers Leave Twitter

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Post by th »

dguaraglia wrote: post #27

Hm, I'll be the asshole and point out something that to me is kind of obvious: Bootstrap isn't mainstream enough to warrant it's own foundation/organization. Just looking at the caliber of other projects that have gone this way (at the top of my head: Apache, Drupal, Django, Zope...) and looking at Boostrap I don't think it's even close to the userbase/clout needed to pull this off. Even the maintainers of those othe…

> Bootstrap isn't mainstream enough to warrant it's own foundation/organization

What do you mean by "not mainstream enough?" Organizations on Github are simply a convenient place to put one or more projects that are collectively worked on by a group of individuals and do not necessarily have a single core maintainer.

Re: Bootstrap Maintainers Leave Twitter

#32

Post by indiecore »

jjjjjosh wrote: post #24
dmix wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The whole "lets use jQuery without learning Javascript" thing didn't work out so well for the community.

If not for jQuery, I'd have probably never learned Javascript, because I would have gotten frustrated with dealing with weird cross-browser gotchas too much to ever get anything done. As I learned I wrote a lot of code I'm not too proud of, looking back on it. But I grew to learn and love Javascript and I honestly have jQuery to thank for that.

Writing code you aren't proud of is step one towards writing code you are proud of.

Of course the problem with that is the code you ARE proud of rapidly becomes the kind you aren't proud of as you learn more.

Re: Bootstrap Maintainers Leave Twitter

#33

Post by [deleted] »

mattmanser wrote: post #28
dmix wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The whole "lets use jQuery without learning Javascript" thing didn't work out so well for the community.

Given that for a long while many JavaScript answers on SO were 'use jQuery' for very good reasons I can't help but think you're a bit out of touch. Actually a bit is being kind. It's rare to come across a site not using jQuery. I write a fair few personal scraping scripts and it's very rare I actually have to add jQuery.

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Re: Bootstrap Maintainers Leave Twitter

#34

Post by popee »

andrewljohnson wrote: post #2

Just speculating here, but this doesn't exactly sound like it was blessed by Twitter: "Bootstrap will remain a Twitter project on GitHub for the time being, but we've realized the project has grown beyond us and the Twitter brand." If this was something Twitter believed too, I imagine there would be some fanfare around this, Twitter helping FLOSS and all that. More to this story?

Isn't fork possible solution? Always?

Re: Bootstrap Maintainers Leave Twitter

#35

Post by wanghq »

seanmalarkey wrote: post #21
coderdude wrote: post #13

Wow, big news for Bootstrap. I think Matt and Jacob realize the huge impact they've made on the web development community and the potential Bootstrap has to become the jQuery of HTML. New developers may begin to ask, "should I learn HTML or Bootstrap?" It's not a far-fetched idea because the same question is sometimes asked by beginners when "deciding between" jQuery and (vanilla) JavaScript. jQuery plugins are ubiqu…

Off topic - Does anyone here remember the post someone wrote awhile here about how they got a boat load of hits by basically paying attention to what was popular here and then writing about it? Thanks in advance...

I think I understand what you said :)

Re: Bootstrap Maintainers Leave Twitter

#36

Post by ekaln »

mmahemoff wrote: post #18
coderdude wrote: post #13

Wow, big news for Bootstrap. I think Matt and Jacob realize the huge impact they've made on the web development community and the potential Bootstrap has to become the jQuery of HTML. New developers may begin to ask, "should I learn HTML or Bootstrap?" It's not a far-fetched idea because the same question is sometimes asked by beginners when "deciding between" jQuery and (vanilla) JavaScript. jQuery plugins are ubiqu…

I've begun thinking of Bootstrap as something like a front-end version of WordPress. It has so much potential to lay the foundation for anything web, whether traditional websites or rich web apps. I entirely agree about the jQuery analogy. There is going to be a huge Bootstrap ecosystem - again similar to WordPress as well as jQuery. It's kind of a problem for the web when this happens, in that it creates the kind of…

Funny you should mention WordPress.

Just yesterday, Joomla, the next largest CMS behind WordPress, launched a latest version, entirely built with Bootstrap: http://joomla.org/3/

That's a not-insignificant % of the web right there that's moving to Bootstrap.

Re: Bootstrap Maintainers Leave Twitter

#37

Post by icelancer »

mattmanser wrote: post #28
dmix wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The whole "lets use jQuery without learning Javascript" thing didn't work out so well for the community.

Given that for a long while many JavaScript answers on SO were 'use jQuery' for very good reasons I can't help but think you're a bit out of touch. Actually a bit is being kind. It's rare to come across a site not using jQuery. I write a fair few personal scraping scripts and it's very rare I actually have to add jQuery.

http://i.imgur.com/BVo3u.png

Re: Bootstrap Maintainers Leave Twitter

#38

Post by seanmalarkey »

wanghq wrote: post #35
seanmalarkey wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Off topic - Does anyone here remember the post someone wrote awhile here about how they got a boat load of hits by basically paying attention to what was popular here and then writing about it? Thanks in advance...

I think I understand what you said :)

LOL - sorry I am drunk..... Dang - I wish someone would remember....

Re: Bootstrap Maintainers Leave Twitter

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Post by engtech »

dmix wrote: post #16
coderdude wrote: post #13

Wow, big news for Bootstrap. I think Matt and Jacob realize the huge impact they've made on the web development community and the potential Bootstrap has to become the jQuery of HTML. New developers may begin to ask, "should I learn HTML or Bootstrap?" It's not a far-fetched idea because the same question is sometimes asked by beginners when "deciding between" jQuery and (vanilla) JavaScript. jQuery plugins are ubiqu…

The whole "lets use jQuery without learning Javascript" thing didn't work out so well for the community.

no, but jQuery is a great way to learn how to write javascript, because it gives you a good framework of basic functionality.

The handwritten code I used to use for element detection was a thing of evil, that kept on getting cut-and-pasted around because it worked.

The conciseness and cleanness of using jQuery was a welcome change.

Re: Bootstrap Maintainers Leave Twitter

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Post by duggan »

[deleted] wrote: post #33
mattmanser wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given that for a long while many JavaScript answers on SO were 'use jQuery' for very good reasons I can't help but think you're a bit out of touch. Actually a bit is being kind. It's rare to come across a site not using jQuery. I write a fair few personal scraping scripts and it's very rare I actually have to add jQuery.

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And yet all of these seemingly negative results arguably drove the development of more interactive web interfaces, rekindled a broader interest in Javascript, eventually resulting in better libraries and, ultimately, things like Node.js being possible.
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