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Re: I Want You to Understand Chicago

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Post by tasuki »

shakes_mcjunkie wrote: post #419

The article is missing a bit about Bovino the other day. He threw a sieg heil and has been videoed doing "paper beats rock" with agents which is a white supremacist dog whistle. These people are openly racist and have unaccountable power to stomp around Chicago and destroy the community. https://www.reddit.com/r/illinois/comments/1os2lid/greg_bovi... *Edit: I forgot to mention, please consider (1) organizing with you…

> He threw a sieg heil

Obviously very bad. I can't understand how people can think Elon was "just waving".

> has been videoed doing "paper beats rock" with agents which is a white supremacist dog whistle.

This is woke nonsense: I was accused of bad things in the past. I did quite innocent things and was accused that my behaviour was a dog whistle for racism. I'm as racist as the next guy (I fail the white-bad black-good test) but consciously very much attempt to be less so!

Re: I Want You to Understand Chicago

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Post by tasuki »

scoofy wrote: post #352
Freedumbs wrote: post #345

Earlier quoted context omitted.

wtf are you talking about? they've shot us citizens, they continually beat an kidnap us citizens for no reason. care to explain any of the actions in this blog post? are you aware of the attack they carried out on an apartment building where they took everyone, mostly US citizens into custody in the middle of the night? kidnapping is the best way to describe it. it's 100% accurate. there's no way to distinguish these…

Because detained and arrested is not the same as kidnapping. It’s just not even close.

How do you know whether you're getting detained or kidnapped? The video I saw... it was just some guys with a gun dragging a woman out of her car after crashing into her on purpose. They looked like bandits to me.

Re: I Want You to Understand Chicago

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Post by ozozozd »

lurk2 wrote: post #429
nobody9999 wrote: post #397

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>The number of times this has happened has not been 0, but in terms of documented instances, you're not talking about a very large group of people. "you're not talking about a very large group of people"? Does that make it acceptable? If so, what's the upper limit on an acceptable number of citizens being disappeared? That's not a rhetorical question.

> If so, what's the upper limit on an acceptable number of citizens being disappeared? I didn’t articulate that properly. There have probably been a non-zero number of illegal detentions, and a few instances (only about a dozen that I’m aware of, most of those preceding the present administration) where citizens have been deported. The ideal number of times either of these things would happen is 0, but there’s no evi…

Ok. Thanks for clarifying that in your view it’s worth deporting a few citizens to a prison in another country so that we can deport folks at Home Depot parking lots etc.

Re: I Want You to Understand Chicago

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Post by tptacek »

keeda wrote: post #438
jonway wrote: post #378

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was looking at yearly immigration numbers and there is variation in the reporting, which is to be expected, but from what I can see, the census bureau sees a fairly stable number of immigrants (undocumented and otherwise) year over year from 2010-2025, and many sources agree, although CATO intstitute indicates a rather large increase (around %40) in this time period. Can you please share some information as to why…

My take (from the sibling comment): the actual immigration problem was not as bad as the perception of it. And possibly that perception was deliberately cultivated across the masses.

For several northern metros, the actual immigration problem was distinctively worse than anything that occurred under Obama. If we can't talk about it without lapsing into cope, we don't have much of a chance to persuade the people voting against the perception you're talking about.

Re: I Want You to Understand Chicago

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Post by _DeadFred_ »

tasuki wrote: post #441
shakes_mcjunkie wrote: post #419

The article is missing a bit about Bovino the other day. He threw a sieg heil and has been videoed doing "paper beats rock" with agents which is a white supremacist dog whistle. These people are openly racist and have unaccountable power to stomp around Chicago and destroy the community. https://www.reddit.com/r/illinois/comments/1os2lid/greg_bovi... *Edit: I forgot to mention, please consider (1) organizing with you…

> He threw a sieg heil Obviously very bad. I can't understand how people can think Elon was "just waving". > has been videoed doing "paper beats rock" with agents which is a white supremacist dog whistle. This is woke nonsense: I was accused of bad things in the past. I did quite innocent things and was accused that my behaviour was a dog whistle for racism. I'm as racist as the next guy (I fail the white-bad black-g…

Did you see the video of him doing the paper beats rock thing? Right after doing the sieg heil? It was very obviously he did it intentionally, whether to troll or not, those for who it is a dog whistle saw it and wagged their tale in joy.

Re: I Want You to Understand Chicago

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Post by tastyface »

shakes_mcjunkie wrote: post #419

The article is missing a bit about Bovino the other day. He threw a sieg heil and has been videoed doing "paper beats rock" with agents which is a white supremacist dog whistle. These people are openly racist and have unaccountable power to stomp around Chicago and destroy the community. https://www.reddit.com/r/illinois/comments/1os2lid/greg_bovi... *Edit: I forgot to mention, please consider (1) organizing with you…

And here’s him cosplaying SS: https://www.reddit.com/r/chicago/comments/1o55i0x/meet_grego...

Strip him down and I’m pretty sure you’ll find some “choice” tats.

Re: I Want You to Understand Chicago

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Post by [deleted] »

tasuki wrote: post #441
shakes_mcjunkie wrote: post #419

The article is missing a bit about Bovino the other day. He threw a sieg heil and has been videoed doing "paper beats rock" with agents which is a white supremacist dog whistle. These people are openly racist and have unaccountable power to stomp around Chicago and destroy the community. https://www.reddit.com/r/illinois/comments/1os2lid/greg_bovi... *Edit: I forgot to mention, please consider (1) organizing with you…

> He threw a sieg heil Obviously very bad. I can't understand how people can think Elon was "just waving". > has been videoed doing "paper beats rock" with agents which is a white supremacist dog whistle. This is woke nonsense: I was accused of bad things in the past. I did quite innocent things and was accused that my behaviour was a dog whistle for racism. I'm as racist as the next guy (I fail the white-bad black-g…

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Re: I Want You to Understand Chicago

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Post by tastyface »

tasuki wrote: post #441
shakes_mcjunkie wrote: post #419

The article is missing a bit about Bovino the other day. He threw a sieg heil and has been videoed doing "paper beats rock" with agents which is a white supremacist dog whistle. These people are openly racist and have unaccountable power to stomp around Chicago and destroy the community. https://www.reddit.com/r/illinois/comments/1os2lid/greg_bovi... *Edit: I forgot to mention, please consider (1) organizing with you…

> He threw a sieg heil Obviously very bad. I can't understand how people can think Elon was "just waving". > has been videoed doing "paper beats rock" with agents which is a white supremacist dog whistle. This is woke nonsense: I was accused of bad things in the past. I did quite innocent things and was accused that my behaviour was a dog whistle for racism. I'm as racist as the next guy (I fail the white-bad black-g…

It’s not new, it’s not “woke,” and it’s not subtle: https://www.adl.org/resources/article/coded-hate-extremists-...

They’ve been doing this shit since they got their asses kicked by the Allies (1488, etc.)

Re: I Want You to Understand Chicago

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Post by scoofy »

tasuki wrote: post #442
scoofy wrote: post #352

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because detained and arrested is not the same as kidnapping. It’s just not even close.

How do you know whether you're getting detained or kidnapped? The video I saw... it was just some guys with a gun dragging a woman out of her car after crashing into her on purpose. They looked like bandits to me.

I mean I agree. I think it’s very bad policy to use masking and not immediately identifiable uniforms. Still, this is a hard problem for all law enforcement. It’s trivial for anyone to impersonate police.. especially undercover officers.

Re: I Want You to Understand Chicago

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Post by fogzen »

inemesitaffia wrote: post #410
nicbou wrote: post #392

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Would one of the combinations make it acceptable?

I'm looking for the appropriate description of what's going on. Somehow I'm led to believe it's okay to move into any country and Bhutan's restrictions on visitors are a-okay in the same breath. Canada's not far and it's not true there either.

The problem is not immigration policy — it’s using terror, illegal detainment, and negligent and excessive force to detain people. Breaking into a daycare with no warrant, no identification (they wear masks and refuse to identify themselves to avoid justice for their crimes), with guns, and dragging a woman out kicking and screaming is both completely illegal in every way and extremely traumatic for everyone - regardless of the wanton cruelty of deporting working class undocumented immigrants who have become a contributing and otherwise law-abiding part of a community.
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