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Re: Largest cargo sailboat completes first Atlantic crossing

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Post by mejutoco »

afh1 wrote: post #230
nullhole wrote: post #73

They have a passenger service too! €3200 for France Baltimore, 13 day trip. But with that you get three meals a day, a decent looking cabin, private bathroom, private balcony, and internet service (though how solid the connection is / what surcharges there may be is a question). ~€250/d doesn't sound too bad, and you could get work done along the way. Kind of sounds nice... https://www.voilasailcoop.fr/transatlantic/…

You get a glimpse of how dislocated from reality the HN crowd is when "€250/d doesn't sound too bad".

Many hotels in the US cost more than that per night. Of course everything is relative.

Re: Largest cargo sailboat completes first Atlantic crossing

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Post by imglorp »

gpm wrote: post #215
imglorp wrote: post #204

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is Algonquin that big? How long we talking here?

Yeah, it is. Basically just up to your route planning... I feel like at more than 2 weeks people start going farther north but I think that has more to do with "we can" than there not still being good routes in Algonquin. I'd probably not recommend more than a week for a first canoe trip anyways.

Sounds amazing, thanks.

Re: Largest cargo sailboat completes first Atlantic crossing

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afh1 wrote: post #230
nullhole wrote: post #73

They have a passenger service too! €3200 for France Baltimore, 13 day trip. But with that you get three meals a day, a decent looking cabin, private bathroom, private balcony, and internet service (though how solid the connection is / what surcharges there may be is a question). ~€250/d doesn't sound too bad, and you could get work done along the way. Kind of sounds nice... https://www.voilasailcoop.fr/transatlantic/…

You get a glimpse of how dislocated from reality the HN crowd is when "€250/d doesn't sound too bad".

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Re: Largest cargo sailboat completes first Atlantic crossing

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

madaxe_again wrote: post #167
ttoinou wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I crossed the atlantic twice, each time for 650 euros the 13 days… add 250/300 euros for internet

I took the Queen Mary across a few years ago and it suuuuuuuucked and cost a frigging fortune. Their main target markets appear to be mennonites and uptight assholes.

I did it in 2018 and it was wonderful. It wasn't incredibly expensive (about the cost of a roundtrip flight, for the one way trip). Food was great, we had the good fortune of being on a Blue Note Jazz special so the music was incredible. Not sure I ever want to do it again - felt more like one of those one-and-done lifetime experiences - but I have nothing but good things to say about it.

Also, unlike cruise ships, the QMII is a bona fide ocean liner, capable of crossing the N. Atlantic even in winter storms.

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

namibj wrote: post #178
dhosek wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The first thing I thought when I saw the article was, I wonder if they have passenger service.

Many freighters have space for the 12 passengers they're allowed to carry before they get reclassified to passenger ship with all the post-Titanic SOLAS requirements those incur. The first 12 however are easy, they self-select to be low-maintenance, they just get their breakfast/lunch/dinner portion from the ship's cook, and have their cabin. A little electricity, reasonable running water, and they're contend. Essent…

My brother did this (Southampton -> Baltimore). It's a lot slower than the Queen Mary. He told me when he arrived "You don't know what time is until you've already watched all the movies you bought with you, read all the books, done all the work, and you realize you've still got 5 days left".

And he's probably the most able-to-handle-boredom human being that I've ever known.

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Post by prmoustache »

rdtsc wrote: post #101
BurningFrog wrote: post #72

This ship carries 5300 tonnes of cargo. The average transoceanic container ship carries around 150,000 to 250,000 tonnes.

Use it for luxury goods! "Why _my_ iphone arrived in Baltimore on a clean cargo ship, so yeah, ..." I am only half joking. Anything luxury of vanity related, just add the fact they've gotten to the consumer on a clean ship and you'll find some people to pay extra for it. The more expensive the better. They can brag about it to each other.

My observation is that prople interested in luxury stuff are usually those that have the least interest on their carbon footprint.

It's rather more interesting to them if luxury stuff is made out of the rarest and most undangered species possible. Also diamonds mined by kids are more popular and expensive than fabricated ones.

Re: Largest cargo sailboat completes first Atlantic crossing

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Post by prmoustache »

krasin wrote: post #140

In the meantime, China is constructing nuclear cargo ships ([1], [2]) that will be able to transport 14,000 containers at full throttle (200MW) without a need to refuel for years. Obviously, it's still not done, and yet to prove to be profitable, but their reactor design does suggest that they have a chance to make it work and replace a lot of CO2 emissions. 1. Original article, but paywall: https://www.scmp.com/news…

Aren't all military submarines and aircraft carriers using nuclear power already? No reason they couldn't make it work as long as regulations allow them in ports.

Re: Largest cargo sailboat completes first Atlantic crossing

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Post by rconti »

afh1 wrote: post #230
nullhole wrote: post #73

They have a passenger service too! €3200 for France Baltimore, 13 day trip. But with that you get three meals a day, a decent looking cabin, private bathroom, private balcony, and internet service (though how solid the connection is / what surcharges there may be is a question). ~€250/d doesn't sound too bad, and you could get work done along the way. Kind of sounds nice... https://www.voilasailcoop.fr/transatlantic/…

You get a glimpse of how dislocated from reality the HN crowd is when "€250/d doesn't sound too bad".

You get a glimpse of how dislocated from reality the HN crowd is whenever they assume their reality is the only reality.

Re: Largest cargo sailboat completes first Atlantic crossing

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Post by akamaka »

afh1 wrote: post #230
nullhole wrote: post #73

They have a passenger service too! €3200 for France Baltimore, 13 day trip. But with that you get three meals a day, a decent looking cabin, private bathroom, private balcony, and internet service (though how solid the connection is / what surcharges there may be is a question). ~€250/d doesn't sound too bad, and you could get work done along the way. Kind of sounds nice... https://www.voilasailcoop.fr/transatlantic/…

You get a glimpse of how dislocated from reality the HN crowd is when "€250/d doesn't sound too bad".

On the contrary, that’s exactly in line with how much the average American spends on holidays:

https://www.pacaso.com/blog/average-vacation-cost

Re: Largest cargo sailboat completes first Atlantic crossing

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Post by [deleted] »

rconti wrote: post #238
afh1 wrote: post #230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You get a glimpse of how dislocated from reality the HN crowd is when "€250/d doesn't sound too bad".

You get a glimpse of how dislocated from reality the HN crowd is whenever they assume their reality is the only reality.

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