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Not defending anyone, but by that logic, you shouldn’t be using any Chinese models either.
or American, using that logic
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I find it funny that people are still calling Grok "mechahitler" as if that weren't prompted by trolls and the AI model is going to set up concentration camps on every block.
> if that weren't prompted by trolls
It is, but the troll is the CEO playing with the system prompt…
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And there are just as well people that would have no sympathy for people who seem to think it's ok to call people nazis for baseless and childish reasons.
If it talks like a nazi and posts like a nazi and supports nazi parties in other countries and sieg heils on national tv like nazi, it probably is a (neo-)nazi.
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My philosophy is "if it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's a duck". Is there a chance that it's not a duck? Sure. Does it matter? Not unless you're a duck scientist. Ultimately I find that there is very little to gain from thinking hard about whether they are just Nazi boosters/sympathizers or actual Neo-nazis, because in practical terms it makes virtually no difference.
I do see your point about how avoiding thinking hard leads to seeing virtually no difference between various somewhat nuanced topics. Oversimplifying everything, reducing complexity into simple catchphrases and extreme cognitive dissonance is what the “other” side is all about. Adopting their overall approach seems somewhat counterproductive longterm…
I recognize the nuance, I just don't think there's anything to gain from trying to understand whether Elon is a Neo-nazi or a more generic white supremacist because, practically speaking, doing so adds no value to my personal or professional life. On the other hand, if my job was to write a book about Elon, I would be compelled to dive much deeper into it.
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Why is that? Does Chinese company really equal Chinese government?
Basically yes. China doesn't have a democracy, and it's government isn't bound by it's laws. If CCP thinks deepseek or any other product/tech can be a beneficial to Chinese strategy they will come knocking, and there's no denying whatever they demand. It can be backdooring, data harvesting, etc, there's really no saying how far they might go.
The same could be said of any LLM offered by either Chinese, European, US, etc.
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That proves he’s an edgy, drugged out jerk. Raising your hand in a certain way is not sufficient to be a nazi..
The guy spends most of his time signal-boosting deeply racist, antisemitic, white supremacist stuff on X. He's obsessed with stuff like "replacement theory" and constantly insists white people must make as many babies as possible to maintain their cultural superiority and avoid being outnumbered by other races. You don't have to believe me. Go check for yourself.
It's extremely disrespectful to call the people from minority and diminishing cultures racist or white supremacist for protecting their own culture. Birth rate / demographic / cultural shifts are real problems. Elon has never talked about "white people" or their superiority. These issues have nothing to do with skin color. Same issues are faced by many asian countries as well.
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Does the internet move so fast that people have forgotten his Roman salute at the trump rally?
That proves he’s an edgy, drugged out jerk. Raising your hand in a certain way is not sufficient to be a nazi..
It’s amazing how far people are willing to go to ignore the evidence right in front of their eyes.