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I Want You to Understand Chicago

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Re: I Want You to Understand Chicago

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> This is supported by a majority of the US. The election was fairly close. The winning candidate got elected by a coalition of people with differing views on an number of individual items within his platform. That does not equate to certain approval by the majority of the American population of any of the things the linked article recounts. All that said, as an American living abroad who votes left, the use of terms…

> The election was fairly close. Yeah but "the totalitarian Neonazis who wanted to deploy secret police were only a slight majority" is really faint praise.

No, my point was that in a close election that depended on a party building coalitions between heterogenous groups of voters, the people in favor of any particular action taken by the elected government may be a minority of the population, not even a slight majority.

Re: I Want You to Understand Chicago

#122

This is really sad to read! Can folks who live in Chicago confirm/deny/comment on the extent to which this article gets it right? (I have no reason to believe that it's an exaggeration, but I sincerely hope that it is.)

It is really bad. A glimmer of hope is a governor with a spine.

https://www.newyorker.com/podcast/the-new-yorker-radio-hour/...

Re: I Want You to Understand Chicago

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Getting shot? I think you might have stumbled onto the question of gun control. I wonder if that's ever been a topic of discussion.

Or if it's about black-on-black crime, maybe there's something to look into with affirmative action?

Cops against blacks? ACAB or kneeling at football games ringing any bells?

Sarcasm aside, one difference here is that the government is trashing your neighbourhood on your dime. You have to listen to republicans say there's no money for healthcare while they spend money on deploying troops to shoot priests with pepper bullets and trying to deport citizens.

Re: I Want You to Understand Chicago

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post #106

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And of course now the parent post is "flagged." Thank you, Libertarian overlords, from protecting the tech community from this dangerous content.

They unflagged it, but the pause in upvotes means it dropped off the front page and out of people's minds.

Mission accomplished for the flaggers. I don't know why HN can't/won't fix this obvious abuse mechanism.

Re: I Want You to Understand Chicago

#127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The election was fairly close. Yeah but "the totalitarian Neonazis who wanted to deploy secret police were only a slight majority" is really faint praise.

No, my point was that in a close election that depended on a party building coalitions between heterogenous groups of voters, the people in favor of any particular action taken by the elected government may be a minority of the population, not even a slight majority.

Sure, but in a healthy society, such extreme opinions should never even be close enough to a minority large enough to be elected into power. Hopefully, anyway.

Re: I Want You to Understand Chicago

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post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They unflagged it, but the pause in upvotes means it dropped off the front page and out of people's minds.

Mission accomplished for the flaggers. I don't know why HN can't/won't fix this obvious abuse mechanism.

It's a forum run by venture capital if that tells you anything. The "tech right" were one of the reasons Trump won this past election. It describes a voter bloc consisting of Libertarian/Thiel/Musk types who are very motivated by: immigration (H1B), deregulation, increasing their wealth, and gaining more power.

Re: I Want You to Understand Chicago

#129
Currently as a Canadian there are probably only four or five countries I really do not want to travel to. In no particular order: North Korea, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Russia and the United States.

Re: I Want You to Understand Chicago

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post #122

This is really sad to read! Can folks who live in Chicago confirm/deny/comment on the extent to which this article gets it right? (I have no reason to believe that it's an exaggeration, but I sincerely hope that it is.)

It is really bad. A glimmer of hope is a governor with a spine. https://www.newyorker.com/podcast/the-new-yorker-radio-hour/...

I live here, and Pritzker says the right things then does the wrong things. He sent the Illinois State Police to help protect ICE from protestors as Broadview, freeing up their resources to attack and kidnap people. In half the videos you see out there his state police as assisting ICE. We have Chicago Aldermen out in the streets and in the hospitals getting arrested and assaulted, we have candidates for congress like Kat Abughazaleh being indicted for protesting, and then Pritzker is giving speeches and going on podcasts while not even stopping his own thugs from helping ICE.

He doesn't have a spine, he has an election strategy.

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