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I Want You to Understand Chicago

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Re: I Want You to Understand Chicago

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post #71

It's really hard to understand Chicago from this article, if you dont know all the referenced incidents already. Who are the kidnappers? Why are agents chasing a teacher? And so on...

It's all the same people. If you really don't know, a few of the incidents are here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/c6299nrj76yo

Re: I Want You to Understand Chicago

#83
post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Immigration enforcement agents suddenly aren't required to show any sort of ID, reveal their faces, or produce any documentation about instances when they enforce immigration law, so "Who are the kidnappers" is actually a pretty good question.

I guess that's a reason to call the cops and report an abduction. Sorry, I'm a stupid European, that how we would handle such a situation.

I hate to invoke the comparison, and not to diminish the Holocaust at all, but to give you a better idea of what's happening in the US right now: what's happening could be compared to the Gestapo rounding up the Jews.

Innocent people are being rounded up by a faceless secret police, violently, in a terrorising manner, and taken to detention centres, with their human rights abused at every stage, with no due process and their fate unknown. This is beyond reporting to the local police department.

Re: I Want You to Understand Chicago

#84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not an exaggeration. People have been kidnapped by these armed masked idiots within two blocks of my house twice, and those are just the closest cases I know about. Go check out the /r/Illinois subreddit [0] to see what's happening. [0]: https://www.reddit.com/r/illinois/

And of course now the parent post is "flagged." Thank you, Libertarian overlords, from protecting the tech community from this dangerous content.

It would not be good to allow malcontents to spread disharmony.

Re: I Want You to Understand Chicago

#85
post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Immigration enforcement agents suddenly aren't required to show any sort of ID, reveal their faces, or produce any documentation about instances when they enforce immigration law, so "Who are the kidnappers" is actually a pretty good question.

I guess that's a reason to call the cops and report an abduction. Sorry, I'm a stupid European, that how we would handle such a situation.

as a european then you really should know since a lot of us had dictatorships and secret police. the gestapo wasnt that long ago and most european communist states had the same issues good luck calling the police

Re: I Want You to Understand Chicago

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post #81
post #71

It's really hard to understand Chicago from this article, if you dont know all the referenced incidents already. Who are the kidnappers? Why are agents chasing a teacher? And so on...

It's all the same people. If you really don't know, a few of the incidents are here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/c6299nrj76yo

I suspected that it's about immigration agents. But it's just really funny how the article claims to explain the issues, without actually explaining it.

Why do they use weapons extensively? Are they chasing violent people who shot at them earlier, or just for fun? It just raises more questions, and doesn't help understanding the situation at all.

Re: I Want You to Understand Chicago

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not from the US, so forgive me for what is probably a dumb question, but how is an illegal receiving money for food, rent, and healthcare? Don't you need documents (aka be legal in the country) for that?

In many instances, no. And that's where a lot of the anger and blow back stems from.

It would be interesting to see how that works. Even here in Europe where we usually have a strong(er) social net, the state wouldn't give me a benefit without going through a process requiring documents to prove who I am, my nationality, etc.

There are food banks and stuff like that, but that's usually from charities.

Re: I Want You to Understand Chicago

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post #71

It's really hard to understand Chicago from this article, if you dont know all the referenced incidents already. Who are the kidnappers? Why are agents chasing a teacher? And so on...

Immigration enforcement agents suddenly aren't required to show any sort of ID, reveal their faces, or produce any documentation about instances when they enforce immigration law, so "Who are the kidnappers" is actually a pretty good question.

If it looks like secret police, it probably is secret police.

Re: I Want You to Understand Chicago

#90

This is really sad to read! Can folks who live in Chicago confirm/deny/comment on the extent to which this article gets it right? (I have no reason to believe that it's an exaggeration, but I sincerely hope that it is.)

Not at all exaggerated. The agents are lying about anything and everything even when there's evidence. One of them threw tear gas out of the window of their SUV because they were pissed to be stuck in traffic. They'll hit and run parked cars and flee the scene.
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