It's really hard to understand Chicago from this article, if you dont know all the referenced incidents already. Who are the kidnappers? Why are agents chasing a teacher? And so on...
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#72A large part of this lawlessness is rooted in nonnormative behavior. But! there are basic protections we could have right now if we demanded them. First and foremost: the Bivens Act; specifically, the right to bring suit in State court against Federal agents. Presidential pardons can't help these thugs in State persons.
Until the supreme court overturns that.
They already did, more or less.
The supreme court ruled that unless your case is virtually a carbon-copy of an existing Bivens case then it doesn't count. The current supreme court does not respect precedent in any meaningful way.
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#73It's really hard to understand Chicago from this article, if you dont know all the referenced incidents already. Who are the kidnappers? Why are agents chasing a teacher? And so on...
Immigration enforcement agents suddenly aren't required to show any sort of ID, reveal their faces, or produce any documentation about instances when they enforce immigration law, so "Who are the kidnappers" is actually a pretty good question.
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I live in Chicago, and this article doesn't even scratch the surface of how bad it is. My wife went to the beach yesterday for 10 minutes to try and rest from the chaos and a fucking black hawk helicopter buzzed by her. They literally fly over my house daily. People, US citizens included, are literally being abducted. People have been shot and killed by masked agents. People have had their children abandoned on the s…
The media has an existential threat of having their broadcast licenses revoked so yeah that probably has a lot to do with why there’s no coverage. If the media had balls, they’d broadcast anyway, license or not.
There's a lot of good independent media looking at this. Some good sources:
https://bsky.app/profile/unraveledpress.com
https://bsky.app/profile/djbyrnes1.bsky.social
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#76It's really hard to understand Chicago from this article, if you dont know all the referenced incidents already. Who are the kidnappers? Why are agents chasing a teacher? And so on...
Immigration enforcement agents suddenly aren't required to show any sort of ID, reveal their faces, or produce any documentation about instances when they enforce immigration law, so "Who are the kidnappers" is actually a pretty good question.
I guess that's a reason to call the cops and report an abduction. Sorry, I'm a stupid European, that how we would handle such a situation.
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#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
ICE are wearing masks, refusing to identify themselves, abducting citizens and non-citizens alike. They are accusing citizens of assault and then releasing them without charging - a pretty good indication that they lied. They are conducting warrantless searches. There is a case where they rammed the car of a U.S. citizen (clearly seen on video), promptly took her into custody, accused her of hitting them, and then re…
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In the USA, we have come to expect a certain level of formality, transparency, and adherence to due process when it comes to how law enforcement operates. Or, at least that's what we tell ourselves the standard is. Granted, we've been backsliding in this department for decades, which really started accelerating during the War On Terror. It's not new with this administration. But, we have strayed a long, long way away from the idealized "uniformed cop visibly walking the beat on the street."
The whole "masked plainclothes men jumping out of an unmarked van, dragging someone off the street into the van, and swooping away" thing is what the villains in the movies did, not the good guys.
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well then you should have no problem proving what you are now only insisting on. This is HN, not Reddit. Where's the citation? Prove what you said or I have no reason to take you seriously.
https://data.cityofchicago.org/Public-Safety/2025-Year-to-Da... 1646 shooting victims in chicago over 40 weeks = 36 shooting victims per week. Although these are cases so there are probably multiple victims in many cases. If you go back 10 years, there are around 34,000 cases of gunshot victims. https://abcnews.go.com/US/58-shot-weekend-chicago-governor-r... https://cwbchicago.com/2025/11/two-killed-21-wounded-in-hal…
So what you're saying is that the rate of violence has been dropping over the last decade? And that we should ignore fed violence (against brown, white, and black people)?
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Have some courage and post under your normal account. Throw-aways don't help build community.