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Apple is crossing a Steve Jobs red line

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Re: Apple is crossing a Steve Jobs red line

#201

Who cares? He’s dead. I know that sounds harsh but this obsession and worship of founders has to stop. Companies are people or so says the Supreme Court. So now that the company exists it’s bigger than any one person even the founder. The company he built is now an order of magnitude more valuable and hardware is the best it’s ever been. It’s maturing. No company stays nimble and vibrant and agile forever. It’s payin…

Hi Tim Cook

Re: Apple is crossing a Steve Jobs red line

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post #112

Sadly iPhone sales and revenue saturated like 4 years ago (and the same for Mac, Wearables and iPad [0]). They focus now a lot on growing revenue from services. Which is kind of sad because they have still much room to grow Mac and iPad: - just make iPad more useful and support MacOS - it's not gonna canibalize Mac, they sale each year 2x more iPads than Macs and 12x more iPhones than Macs. - make macbook Pro standar…

This is easily disapproved by just looking at their charts. Especially if you remove the Covid bump.

https://sixcolors.com/post/2025/11/apples-fiscal-2025-in-cha...

And even a little bit of analysis will show none of your ideas will grow the bottom line.

Re: Apple is crossing a Steve Jobs red line

#203

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Use an MP3 player from before the iPod existed and then try an iPod classic. Same with smart phones. There is no way you're going to convince most people that what you say is true in any general sense. Sure, simplification means having to have some opinionated ways of doing things because you're removing options, but there's a very real benefit that can come out of it. If anything, it makes the current state of Apple…

I had an MP3 player before the iPod. It was a CD-based player, and it was pretty good. I think, iPod was really one of the first users of 1.8" hard drives, so it was better than the competition simply because Apple had access to better hardware.

I disagree. Apple had no monopoly on 1.8" hard drives nor most of the other components in the original iPod (except maybe the scroll wheel itself?); they were merely among the first to apply it into a media player. It was the UI that was groundbreaking. You could switch from an album, to and artist, to a playlist, to a specific song all within seconds with your thumb. CD-based mp3 players were ok, but were battery hogs and updating playlists/music/etc was a hassle as one had to burn CDs. The UIs for most were "useable" at best.

Apple did have clever, original, and good marketing, but the product (iPod) was so clearly better than anything that came before it, either way. And that was my original point against the prior comment that the customer experience was just "be like Steve Jobs" and then it's good.

Re: Apple is crossing a Steve Jobs red line

#204

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I do care about apple forgetting that the walled garden’s walls are tolerated only because the experience inside is better. Why would they care if they can just lock the gates and put some barbed wire on top of the walls? What are you going to do, move to Android?

>What are you going to do, move to Android? Why not? If ads are coming anyway why pay the apple tax.

But Blue Bubbles! And iMessage, and you will need to move your photos. Also Music, movies and other stuff.

Re: Apple is crossing a Steve Jobs red line

#205
post #75

> From that point on, Steve would go on to spend lavishly on things that improved the experience, and he would reject—often brutally—any idea that diluted or harmed the experience. ...I’ll go out on a limb and say that uninvited advertising is not normally equated with a better customer experience. YES!!! SOO much of the Apple user experience has degraded due to this. I can't listen to my own music that I bought on t…

Apple's beancounters have figured out that they just have to be more polished than Microsoft and Google's environments, and despite the legitimate complaints you've made, they still are .

Precisely. This is their "Have the cake and eat it too" strategy, where so long as they aren't as egregious as their competitors, they know it's a Net gain as most of their customers will still feel the grass is still greener in their wall garden than elsewhere. Even if the grass isn't near as green or well kept so to speak as it used to be.

Re: Apple is crossing a Steve Jobs red line

#207

Who cares? He’s dead. I know that sounds harsh but this obsession and worship of founders has to stop. Companies are people or so says the Supreme Court. So now that the company exists it’s bigger than any one person even the founder. The company he built is now an order of magnitude more valuable and hardware is the best it’s ever been. It’s maturing. No company stays nimble and vibrant and agile forever. It’s payin…

Yea i also think this blind steve worship needs to stop. He was great back then but who knows what he would have done nowaday.

The situation is different, the world is different, apple is serving much more consumers, the company has much more employees, more products, more markets.

And i get it, the software they put out nowadays is pretty terrible and could be much better and everyone is frustrated but this constant steve ressurrection needs to stop.

Re: Apple is crossing a Steve Jobs red line

#208
> Some time ago (1999-ish) [...] a number of ways to integrate ads were discussed.

> One was to show a cool video from a respected company (such as Nike) every time the Mac starts up. [...]

This sounds so weird in 2025. However, I can see that probably in those times there was no "norm", and people were trying different things.

Who knows, maybe if it weren't for Steve Jobs, ads at startup might be the norm. And who knows how many similar things we dodged because of people like Jobs.

Re: Apple is crossing a Steve Jobs red line

#209
post #75

> From that point on, Steve would go on to spend lavishly on things that improved the experience, and he would reject—often brutally—any idea that diluted or harmed the experience. ...I’ll go out on a limb and say that uninvited advertising is not normally equated with a better customer experience. YES!!! SOO much of the Apple user experience has degraded due to this. I can't listen to my own music that I bought on t…

This is especially egregious in the Books app on all platforms. I dream of a version that presents you with your library on launch instead of the store — good user experience would expect you to be opening the app to read books 99% of the time, not to purchase new ones.

Thankfully, on macOS, you can disable the store in the Music app entirely. This will probably be removed at some point. When disabled, the only remnant is a small username in the bottom-left corner of the screen. I would love to see this gone as well, but local libraries are increasingly of no concern to Apple or the general public so I doubt they will fix this.

Re: Apple is crossing a Steve Jobs red line

#210

It doesn't matter what Steve Jobs would or wouldn't do, Tim Cook took Apple to a $3T company and that's where we are.

Money isn't everything. We can, and should, shun businessmen who try to eke out every ounce of profit by making their products terrible.
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