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I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you have to go to a laundromat, carrying a couple pods with you is way more convenient.

Vs. carrying a small box, that you would also carry for pods, because you don't want to hold them in your hand the whole time?

you can put pods with laundry. no need in box

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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summary: The creator argues that most dishwashers are designed to use a pre-wash dose and a main wash dose of detergent, a fundamental often ignored by single-dose pods, and presents independent ASTM testing confirming the new powder matches or exceeds the performance of a leading premium pod. The video also features a detailed demonstration using temperature logging and peanut butter to stress the importance of purg…

Interestingly the Gemini summary is nowhere near as good. But when it is... how helpful will that be! So many things with a very good summary will save so much time / avoid having to dive into unless truly in need of the details. But the quality of the summary - and maybe the ability to expand it if slightly more details are required - and the low latency with that - are all super important. In that sense, AI can pot…

I summarise YT videos with Gemini all the time. You can easily control the length and depth of the summary & get it to focus on particular things etc, before investing time in watching it, only to find out it's promotional, superficial, clickbait, or some combination of all 3.

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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I was a long-time adherent of powder for all the reasons in the video. I used the Seventh Generation powder that is widely available, or once was. One day I couldn't find it, so I got Cascade Free & Clear Pods. I was completely blown away by how much better the pods work. And they work faster, too, because my dishwasher cycles are based on water clarity and they end sooner if the detergent is working faster. So I per…

We attempted an experiment in our own dishwasher after the video, trying Cascade Platinum boxed powder (only stuff available here) and Cascade Platinum Plus pods (which we had been using before). The experiment showed that, for our dishwasher and our water, the pods just worked significantly better. The main difference was in the silverware (tiny bits would occasionally be left with the powder).

A couple of months into the experiment with the powder, the dishwasher started to smell a bit foul, which usually indicates time to clean the filters, which I did. But this happened vastly sooner than I was used to with the pods.

Even if the powder's performance sucks intentionally because Cascade made it worse now, as a sibling comment suggested, ultimately that's the only powder option still available here.

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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summary: The creator argues that most dishwashers are designed to use a pre-wash dose and a main wash dose of detergent, a fundamental often ignored by single-dose pods, and presents independent ASTM testing confirming the new powder matches or exceeds the performance of a leading premium pod. The video also features a detailed demonstration using temperature logging and peanut butter to stress the importance of purg…

Thanks for the summary. American dishwashers don't have their own heater? All dishwashers I've seen in Australia only have cold water supply.

This has always struck me as dumb, as until recently it was far cheaper to use your existing (gas-fired) hot water than to use a resistive element. However, with gas going out of fashion (and already hugely expensive in the Eastern states), and abundant solar PV, the calculus has changed.

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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Having the cleanest dishes is not always the optimization one is looking for.

I like pods because there is less of a chance my clumsy self, or younger kids can accidentally spill costly soap for my dog to try to lick up or overfill the dispenser. My dishes are almost never caked in fats and oils when I put them in. I do not use a pre-wash. If I do I break a pod in half and toss in the bottom.

This guy makes me roll my eyes. There is nothing more exhausting than a self-assured YouTuber lecturing others as if he has all the right answers. He is not wrong per se but not everyone has their own preferences and needs.

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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I applaud this man's commitment to dishwashers. But you can buy a large box of generic and very cheap no-bullshit pods at Costco, and simply put two or even three of them in a load. If you're going the multi-pod route, you can put one in the dispenser and one or more right in with the dishes.

even the cheap costco pods are 3x the cost of powder. And his point is that the pods undermine the dishwasher because they don't let you control when and how much detergent is deployed during the multiple washing cycles. powder deploys during rinse and wash. pods deploy only during wash (or only rinse if people put the pods into the tray, which is common) And the dishwashers are designed with a hardness index in the…

But the multi-pod strategy means you can give the machine soap to use in various cycles. Put some in the little flap, and some just in with the dishes.

I'm not sure if my machine even has a hardness marking, but when I used liquid dishwasher soap, I simply filled up the compartment every time.

As to the cost, yes it's 3X, but if you're reading this and you have a Costco membership, it's still a rounding error.

Pods just make life simpler and cleaner (no messy powders and gunky liquids in the soap cabinet), which is why I even have a dishwasher in the first place.

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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One surprising thing I got from this is that the "Energy Saver" mode used just as much energy, and even more water.

But he said that almost as a throwaway, with almost no explanation of his methodology in determining this, nor discussion about how common this problem might be.

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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One surprising thing I got from this is that the "Energy Saver" mode used just as much energy, and even more water. But he said that almost as a throwaway, with almost no explanation of his methodology in determining this, nor discussion about how common this problem might be.

Maybe it means energy as in human effort.

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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One surprising thing I got from this is that the "Energy Saver" mode used just as much energy, and even more water. But he said that almost as a throwaway, with almost no explanation of his methodology in determining this, nor discussion about how common this problem might be.

He made a follow-up video in which he explains his testing methodology and what the dishwasher is doing in heavy detail:

https://youtu.be/WnBb3DLlVPwsi=1fW2qg8_Y1SmxkKo

Tl;dr He actually tested each cycle, timed what it did, and measured the energy with a Kill a Watt. He also found the repair manual, which included a diagram of each cycle that matched his tests.

His ultimate finding was that all of the cycles and modifiers did wildly different things, none of which correlated in any way to their name.

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