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I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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Post by K0balt »

genter wrote: post #26
jojohohanon wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pilot lights are often designed so that the heat from the flame holds a bimetallic switch in the open position. Should the light go out, the bimetallic switch will shut as it cools.

For water heaters and wall furnaces with a gas control valve, yes. For old stoves, they don't.

TBF the amount of gas used in old style pilots is really tiny. I’m sure it’s possible to accumulate dangerous quantities somehow, perhaps in a sealed subterranean basement if using propane instead of natural gas.

Natural gas is mostly methane, which is lighter than air and easily escapes most structures.

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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Post by ZeroGravitas »

I watched the video, but may have missed this, but shouldn't the testing have shown that the powder was substantially better?

Or did they not test the "putting some powder into the prewash" thing and so it was just "powder released all at once" vs "tablet released all at once".

Even there I'd expect some mild improvement from the powder mixing more easily than a plastic wrapped tablet (though maybe if the content inside is liquid this factor is reversed?).

Does this mean the big corps do have some chemical advantage that cancels out the crappy delivery mechanism?

Or does it mean that a mechanical spray prewash step isn't meaningfully improved by chemicals in most circumstances?

I was more alarmed by the wrappers being plastic. I had assumed they were some clever biodegradable thing but they're not.

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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Post by tguvot »

eitau_1 wrote: post #40
tguvot wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

pods are about convenience. exactly same reason that i got dishwasher with detergent cartridges and washing machine with build in container for detergent. but if we talk about powders, they can be very different with different performance. There are commercial powders (for restaurants and such where dishwashers run on very short cycles) that I afraid to put in my dishwasher and there are eco powders that are made fro…

I can't remember if it was main video or second channel one, in which Alec states with confidence that big brands make powder worse on purpose to push their higher margin pods. The opinion is based on his experience (horrible residue left by big-name powder in contrast to store-branded great-value powders being problem-free) and lab results.

i used cascade powder to refill miele cartridges. there was 0 difference with regards to residue/etc. also SDS was very similiar.

i just went to check amazon. cascade complete powder has 4.6 with 9k reviews. if it was subpar, pretty sure that rating would have reflected it. for example plant based detergents hover around 4.

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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Post by maxerickson »

Gigachad wrote: post #37
tguvot wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circulator_pump#Use_with_domes...

This seems like something that only makes sense when water is scarce but electricity is cheap. You’d be constantly losing heat to the poorly insulated pipes.

People who do it more or less don't care about the price of energy (except maybe in the abstract).

It's for comfort and convenience.

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

#45

Post by brianwawok »

Rebelgecko wrote: post #6
suprjami wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for the summary. American dishwashers don't have their own heater? All dishwashers I've seen in Australia only have cold water supply.

American dishwashers are typically hooked up to hot water. Some will have heaters but they're not that powerful and they may only run for the main wash cycle

Not true. Dishwashers get cold very often.

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

#46

Post by tenacious_tuna »

brianwawok wrote: post #45
Rebelgecko wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

American dishwashers are typically hooked up to hot water. Some will have heaters but they're not that powerful and they may only run for the main wash cycle

Not true. Dishwashers get cold very often.

...what's not true? I can't tell what you're disagreeing with.

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

#47

Post by bdavbdav »

ajb wrote: post #22
devilbunny wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They do. I didn't realize this until my natural gas supply company decided to replace my meter on a Friday. Without alerting me ahead of time so that I could, you know, plan to be gone while my house had no hot water. Whenever natural gas supply is turned off in the US, for any reason, only the gas company can turn it back on. And they can't do so if there's a leak at all. You have to call a plumber to come out, dete…

My parents used to have an old cooker which rather than having a spark button, had individual pilot lights for all of the hob burners and the grill. My mother was forever worried about whether one of the damn things had gone out (which they occasionally did). I think if you switched the supply off, switched it on again, and someone has left their house for a week, it might build up a significant amount of gas. Althou…

That is an insane solution to the problem. I’d rather put a match to it.

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

#48

Post by ash_091 »

ErroneousBosh wrote: post #12

I wonder if that's why my now something like nearly 40-year-old dishwasher is so bad for leaking, on certain cycles? Maybe the pods foam up too much, because it seems hell of a foamy inside. At some point, I'll maybe post up the pics of repairing the door hinges - previously it was leaking badly because the chunky metal hinges had cracked and bent, pushing the door up enough to not squash the bottom lip seal. Unobtai…

MIG is for hobbyists. Real programmers use TIG.

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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Post by ErroneousBosh »

ash_091 wrote: post #48
ErroneousBosh wrote: post #12

I wonder if that's why my now something like nearly 40-year-old dishwasher is so bad for leaking, on certain cycles? Maybe the pods foam up too much, because it seems hell of a foamy inside. At some point, I'll maybe post up the pics of repairing the door hinges - previously it was leaking badly because the chunky metal hinges had cracked and bent, pushing the door up enough to not squash the bottom lip seal. Unobtai…

MIG is for hobbyists. Real programmers use TIG.

I haven't got space for a TIG. However a couple of weeks ago Hofer had an inverter gasless MIG about the size of a Commodore 64 power brick, not including the spool of wire. Can't say I wasn't tempted to get myself a hot-glue-gun-for-metal kind of tool.

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

#50

Post by SoftTalker »

K0balt wrote: post #41
genter wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For water heaters and wall furnaces with a gas control valve, yes. For old stoves, they don't.

TBF the amount of gas used in old style pilots is really tiny. I’m sure it’s possible to accumulate dangerous quantities somehow, perhaps in a sealed subterranean basement if using propane instead of natural gas. Natural gas is mostly methane, which is lighter than air and easily escapes most structures.

Yes it's not a concern for kitchen stoves. The amount of gas/flow rate is too low.
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