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I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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If you check the manual you might find that you can hook the single inlet pipe up to the hot water tap.

I feel like it's probably pointless. The dishwasher will be full of water before the hot water starts coming out the pipe. Depending on how far the dishwasher is from the water heater I guess.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circulator_pump#Use_with_domes...

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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i used multiple dishwashers in multiple countries. blomberg, ge, bosch, miele, lg. used pods for as long as they exist (with exception of miele that has detergent cartridge that is good for two dozens of cycles). the only times when I had problem with dishwasher performance it's when either dishwasher had physical malfunction, dishwasher arms were blocked by some object or when i forgot to put pod. is my experience o…

His stance is less that pods don't perform, and more that powders perform just as well and are less wasteful.

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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I thought that the multi-solution pods - they're usually have differently-colored, for I presume marketing reasons - have pockets with different dissolve rates, so that the solutions are dispensed in sequence. I've not tested that, though.

He has another video talking about pods specifically:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rBO8neWw04

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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i used multiple dishwashers in multiple countries. blomberg, ge, bosch, miele, lg. used pods for as long as they exist (with exception of miele that has detergent cartridge that is good for two dozens of cycles). the only times when I had problem with dishwasher performance it's when either dishwasher had physical malfunction, dishwasher arms were blocked by some object or when i forgot to put pod. is my experience o…

His stance is less that pods don't perform, and more that powders perform just as well and are less wasteful.

pods are about convenience. exactly same reason that i got dishwasher with detergent cartridges and washing machine with build in container for detergent.

but if we talk about powders, they can be very different with different performance. There are commercial powders (for restaurants and such where dishwashers run on very short cycles) that I afraid to put in my dishwasher and there are eco powders that are made from unicorn tears (tried once, they cleaned dirt but leave stains on clear glass). i went through sds of a bunch of them. most of them have same similar basic ingredients, but in different proportions

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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I thought that the multi-solution pods - they're usually have differently-colored, for I presume marketing reasons - have pockets with different dissolve rates, so that the solutions are dispensed in sequence. I've not tested that, though.

It would be probably very difficult to engineer a good dissolution rate that takes into account the different length and water temperature of the pre-wash cycle of the many many different dishwashers out there. So no, as the video in the sibling comment shows, it's just fancy marketing.

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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I feel like it's probably pointless. The dishwasher will be full of water before the hot water starts coming out the pipe. Depending on how far the dishwasher is from the water heater I guess.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circulator_pump#Use_with_domes...

This seems like something that only makes sense when water is scarce but electricity is cheap. You’d be constantly losing heat to the poorly insulated pipes.

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circulator_pump#Use_with_domes...

This seems like something that only makes sense when water is scarce but electricity is cheap. You’d be constantly losing heat to the poorly insulated pipes.

I have all hot water pipes insulated in my house

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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I wonder if that's why my now something like nearly 40-year-old dishwasher is so bad for leaking, on certain cycles? Maybe the pods foam up too much, because it seems hell of a foamy inside. At some point, I'll maybe post up the pics of repairing the door hinges - previously it was leaking badly because the chunky metal hinges had cracked and bent, pushing the door up enough to not squash the bottom lip seal. Unobtai…

At 40 years, there is an expectation that the rubber and most plastic components have become embrittled. The hinges likely only wore out after the spring had reduced function (and lack of lubrication) After your weld, I hope you consider replacing all rubber with silicone, and add lubrication to at least an annual list.

The plastic and rubber bits are absolutely fine.

The hinges broke because someone leaned on the door with their full weight while it was open. The grease on the hinge pins was perfectly okay too.

Ariston used to be a quality company.

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

His stance is less that pods don't perform, and more that powders perform just as well and are less wasteful.

pods are about convenience. exactly same reason that i got dishwasher with detergent cartridges and washing machine with build in container for detergent. but if we talk about powders, they can be very different with different performance. There are commercial powders (for restaurants and such where dishwashers run on very short cycles) that I afraid to put in my dishwasher and there are eco powders that are made fro…

I can't remember if it was main video or second channel one, in which Alec states with confidence that big brands make powder worse on purpose to push their higher margin pods.

The opinion is based on his experience (horrible residue left by big-name powder in contrast to store-branded great-value powders being problem-free) and lab results.

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