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Deepnote, a Jupyter alternative, is going open source

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Re: Deepnote, a Jupyter alternative, is going open source

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Post by j2kun »

flexagoon wrote: post #56
simonw wrote: post #45

Way to undermine an interesting product launch through poorly chosen language: > Let’s be frank the single‑player notebook has felt outdated for a while now. We’re open‑sourcing its successor. Jupyter belongs in the hall of great ideas — alongside “Hello, world.” and “View Source.” If you're trying to reach out to the Python community this is not the way to do it. Completely unnecessary hostile language there! Have s…

Why is "View source" listed here as if it's some outdated feature of the past?

Probably an AI wrote large parts of this press release.

Re: Deepnote, a Jupyter alternative, is going open source

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Post by andy99 »

simonw wrote: post #45

Way to undermine an interesting product launch through poorly chosen language: > Let’s be frank the single‑player notebook has felt outdated for a while now. We’re open‑sourcing its successor. Jupyter belongs in the hall of great ideas — alongside “Hello, world.” and “View Source.” If you're trying to reach out to the Python community this is not the way to do it. Completely unnecessary hostile language there! Have s…

I saw this on LinkedIn earlier and literally closed it after “ Let’s be frank the single‑player notebook has felt outdated for a while now”

I think it must be messaging for “leadership” as opposed to practitioners, there are lots of real pain points but they don’t seem to be mentioning them

Re: Deepnote, a Jupyter alternative, is going open source

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Post by [deleted] »

sixhobbits wrote: post #50

Haha I've asked LLMs to avoid fluff in a prompt and gotten exactly a heading like that one wkth "(no fluff)" before. Otherwise I've followed DeepNote since they started. I agree with other comments that it's icky to announce yourself as a successor to someone else's project, but always nice to have more options for open source

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Re: Deepnote, a Jupyter alternative, is going open source

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Post by j2kun »

orly01 wrote: post #42

I don't know much about this, but I understand Project Jupyter is Nonprofit. If I go to "jupyter.org" I see a tab "Community" and another "Governance". If I go to "deepnote.com" I see "Customers" and "Pricing". Why would people want a standard to be controlled by a private company? I don't think the "Open-Sourcing" of it says enough. How does licensing work with formats or standards?

People don't want that. This article is largely empty marketing. Claiming they have "the successor" is all you need to read before you can infer it's hot air.

Re: Deepnote, a Jupyter alternative, is going open source

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Post by gowld »

Equiet wrote: post #51
simonw wrote: post #45

Way to undermine an interesting product launch through poorly chosen language: > Let’s be frank the single‑player notebook has felt outdated for a while now. We’re open‑sourcing its successor. Jupyter belongs in the hall of great ideas — alongside “Hello, world.” and “View Source.” If you're trying to reach out to the Python community this is not the way to do it. Completely unnecessary hostile language there! Have s…

Thanks for the feedback Simon!

Did you... read it?

Re: Deepnote, a Jupyter alternative, is going open source

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Post by 3rodents »

simonw wrote: post #45

Way to undermine an interesting product launch through poorly chosen language: > Let’s be frank the single‑player notebook has felt outdated for a while now. We’re open‑sourcing its successor. Jupyter belongs in the hall of great ideas — alongside “Hello, world.” and “View Source.” If you're trying to reach out to the Python community this is not the way to do it. Completely unnecessary hostile language there! Have s…

it’s what happens when people use LLMs to write their posts. Rubbishing Jupyter is an obvious choice if you’re a machine writing a compelling post. Rubbishing Jupyter if you’re a human being with a stake in the space is a terrible choice.

My constructive advice for deepnote: if you don’t have something to say from the heart, don’t ask an LLM to generate something for you. Write less, not more. For a post this important, an LLM is a terrible choice.

Re: Deepnote, a Jupyter alternative, is going open source

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Post by bsimpson »

Might wanna spell-check the post if you want any credibility on your claim:

> worfklows

Observable is already open-sourced and well-respected. Bold and ridiculous to claim your random product is "the successor" of a well-known project, without any obvious relationship to the founders/maintainers of the thing you claim to be aping.

Re: Deepnote, a Jupyter alternative, is going open source

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Post by anonzzzies »

simonw wrote: post #45

Way to undermine an interesting product launch through poorly chosen language: > Let’s be frank the single‑player notebook has felt outdated for a while now. We’re open‑sourcing its successor. Jupyter belongs in the hall of great ideas — alongside “Hello, world.” and “View Source.” If you're trying to reach out to the Python community this is not the way to do it. Completely unnecessary hostile language there! Have s…

I do not often make a point after upvoting but instead of writing more or less the same: this ^. If not for the open source, I would have closed the the page after that blurb thinking something is off and I do not need it.

Re: Deepnote, a Jupyter alternative, is going open source

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Post by cobertos »

ayhanfuat wrote: post #36

Claiming that the number of job postings mentioning Jupyter has decreased, so Jupyter is no longer popular is not something a company in the data space should do. It is just embarrassing.

And that graph they show has an offset y axis (hides the scale from 0 to exaggerate the "downward trend") _and_ has a non-uniform x axis. Each tick mark represents a different scale of time (1yr, 3 mos, 1 mo)

Wtf

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