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Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by carlosjobim »

PyWoody wrote: post #169
robot-wrangler wrote: post #17

Since we're doing PSAs, isn't it also now just a completely broken platform on mobile for everyone who isn't logged in? > Something went wrong, but don't fret - let's give it another shot. This is all I've seen for literally years now. No real error, does not even say to login or install an app, just blames it on my privacy extensions (I don't actually have any) and offers a button to pointlessly try again. No big lo…

Serious question: Why doesn't Google de-rank content that requires a login? I remember they used to claim they did but they clearly do not anymore.

Because people can get a login. If the best quality result is behind a login and a paywall, I still want it to be the first result. Only quality should decide ranking.

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by minitoar »

carlosjobim wrote: post #178
aldousd666 wrote: post #161

Nobody wants a damn web view. If I'm clicking off to a link, I may want to click to another app and back in and still be where it was... If it's in a webview that's gone as soon as I click out. Yes, you can open in Chrome or whatever, open in a browser, but that's a pain in the ass to do an the time. I hate web views, in all forms.

Why would the web view be gone after you've multi tasked? On my phone the web view stays open inside the parent app.

idk but I’ve definitely experienced this. Presumably it’s a bug.

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by jeroenhd »

ojr wrote: post #179
jeroenhd wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Replace "mega app" with "platform" and that's pretty much what Apple and Google are, Apple especially.

no I will not replace mega app with platform, WeChat app is totally different from the App Store. In and Out has 5 menu items, similar to an app made in the USA, not too many features A Chinese market can list 50 items similar to WeChat that has 50 different features. The culture is reflected in the app design. source: https://digitalcreative.cn/blog/how-china-ux-is-different

The App Store moved the clusters of icons to the home screen, but the messages and wallet app are right next to each other, and tightly integrated. You get to re-arrange and hide most icons, at least.

The UI looks different (information density etc.) but in the end it's still a collection of external applications neatly wrapped inside a platform with strong walls and a strict gatekeeper, with a basic suite available by default. In China, you could ditch most of iOS if you could trick a phone into launching directly into WeChat.

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by the_mitsuhiko »

as1mov wrote: post #142
input_sh wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Come on, pre-Elon you could click on a Twitter link and read the entire thread as well as the replies, now you just get a single tweet with no context above/below. And if you click on an account you just get top posts of all time instead of a chronological feed, so it's impossible to even find the context while being logged off.

Here's me complaining[1] about the login walls way back in 2021, this was before the Elon takeover. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28268365 Edit: Some more posts - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28289263 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28281472

That's a completely unrelated issue. Once someone sent you a link to a tweet, you could read it.

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by Carp »

as1mov wrote: post #142
input_sh wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Come on, pre-Elon you could click on a Twitter link and read the entire thread as well as the replies, now you just get a single tweet with no context above/below. And if you click on an account you just get top posts of all time instead of a chronological feed, so it's impossible to even find the context while being logged off.

Here's me complaining[1] about the login walls way back in 2021, this was before the Elon takeover. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28268365 Edit: Some more posts - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28289263 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28281472

Interesting; if you'd have asked me when Elon took over I'd have said something around 2020-2022. Probably why everyone assumes it's a result of him

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by zetanor »

BugsJustFindMe wrote: post #155
zetanor wrote: post #145

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Is the implication here that the core fabric of our society isn't otherwise being disrupted, or that this particular disruption should be viewed as exceptionally egregious?

YSK, it feels like the implication of the framing of your question is that you're suggesting it doesn't matter and nobody should care. The disruption is egregious. It is notable and worth pushing back against, even if you don't view it as "exceptional".

I am concerned with attacks on freedom, dignity, culture and national character. King Elmo of Twitter is "bad", but mild.

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by code_for_monkey »

agos wrote: post #35
robot-wrangler wrote: post #17

Since we're doing PSAs, isn't it also now just a completely broken platform on mobile for everyone who isn't logged in? > Something went wrong, but don't fret - let's give it another shot. This is all I've seen for literally years now. No real error, does not even say to login or install an app, just blames it on my privacy extensions (I don't actually have any) and offers a button to pointlessly try again. No big lo…

remember when part of the commentary was "ha! twitter fired one bajllion people and it's still operating fine". I keep seeing errors, much more than in the flying whale era, just now they appear to be in the frontend.

I remember that, people were convinced that twitter had a load of woke lib employees or something

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by ajkjk »

carlosjobim wrote: post #181
PyWoody wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Serious question: Why doesn't Google de-rank content that requires a login? I remember they used to claim they did but they clearly do not anymore.

Because people can get a login. If the best quality result is behind a login and a paywall, I still want it to be the first result. Only quality should decide ranking.

Well I sure don't

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by oulipo2 »

nomdep wrote: post #81
elAhmo wrote: post #70

Again, anyone still using Twitter should know they are contributing to the richest man in the world actively pushing to disrupt the core fabric of our society.

Building rockets, moon bases, making fossil fuels less critical… yes, I agree

What does he do except making fossil fuel MORE critical? What do you think rockets are powered with?

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by oulipo2 »

gruez wrote: post #101
01HNNWZ0MV43FF wrote: post #86

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>Cutting food stamps. How is Musk involved in the current budget debacle aside from being "republican"? It's easy to blame stuff on him when he was running DOGE, but since his falling out with trump blaming every cut on Musk is a tired and expired meme.

It's not because he no longer works there that he doesn't have the exact same ideology. And now he's trying to push a Trump-like figure in the UK
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