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Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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I'm fascinated with the number of users of this site who seem disproportionately invested in getting people to stop using Twitter.

Yeah it's so fascinating that people want an open internet rather than a small group of billionaires and big tech companies controlling everything. Truly bizarre.

"open"?

That's an interesting word to describe a platform that was previously the undisputed playground of Feds and NGOs.

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Always been like that. Twitter, Instagram, ... None of those platforms have usable UX if you're not logged in.

This is not true, this change is a recent phenomenon, I believe it came into effect sometime around 2021-2023 (maybe earlier even). I believe it changed when OpenAI showed the value of data. Before, there was no problem using Instagram or Twitter while not logged in. Now there is a dark pattern that forces you to create an account, or log in.

That’s roughly when I stopped opening Twitter links, I still sometimes see posts from that platform, but mostly just as screenshots and with the discussions elsewhere. I don’t care for their dark patterns.

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On a related topic, I've been following with some amusement the outrage on Reddit/r/Grok because Grok will no longer make porn. Apparently Grok was trained on all the NSFW material on X and Twitter before it intentionally so Grok could have a "spicy" mode. And spicy it was. Some of the stuff it made was really good and people loved it. But (allegedly) Musk changed his mind to go after enterprise and government accoun…

I mean isn't this just considered data poisoning?

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Since we're doing PSAs, isn't it also now just a completely broken platform on mobile for everyone who isn't logged in? > Something went wrong, but don't fret - let's give it another shot. This is all I've seen for literally years now. No real error, does not even say to login or install an app, just blames it on my privacy extensions (I don't actually have any) and offers a button to pointlessly try again. No big lo…

This past week I rarely see quoted tweets now in the main timeline, it just says not available. So something about viewing RT is broken.

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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I find it so sad that Twitter still gets traffic at all. Even if we put aside the super shady content on this platform (free speech, lol), the app, either on the web or mobile, has a sub-par user experience.

I wish all the devs that I respect were using another platform.

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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When was that? Already pre-Elon it was terrible.

Sorry, are you actually five years old? Until just a few years ago Twitter was entirely open. You could view any and all public tweets, replies, threads. All exactly like you were logged in. Their APIs were open and you could literally plug the entire stream of all tweets from all users on the actual planet in real time into your own application.

From UI perspective you are right, but not for APIs.

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When was that? Already pre-Elon it was terrible.

Sorry, are you actually five years old? Until just a few years ago Twitter was entirely open. You could view any and all public tweets, replies, threads. All exactly like you were logged in. Their APIs were open and you could literally plug the entire stream of all tweets from all users on the actual planet in real time into your own application.

No, I'm with GP: Most of the time I'd just get errors and retries that don't work, even years before Elon. I also never had an account there and assumed it had something to do with that.
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