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Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by aids_bomb »

rcruzeiro wrote: post #162
mk89 wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I prefer a guy that performs a show like Musk to a Zuckeberg that is leading our youth to a very bad path - probably worse is only Tiktok. And all for some coins. At least the guy says what he thinks, which you might agree or disagree with. And yes, in the meantime he is getting richer. Not sure what's bad about that.

> Not sure what's bad about that. Parent commenter pointed out Musk performing a nazi salute during the inauguration of the President of the United States, and supporting fascist party takeovers across the world. If you are not sure what is bad about that, then maybe you should just admit to having nazi inclinations?

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Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by spankalee »

pie_flavor wrote: post #135
robinhood wrote: post #66

I find it so sad that Twitter still gets traffic at all. Even if we put aside the super shady content on this platform (free speech, lol), the app, either on the web or mobile, has a sub-par user experience. I wish all the devs that I respect were using another platform.

The app consistently shows me things that I want to see from the social circle around the people I follow and the topics they talk about. Alternative platforms like Threads are worse at this; the platform I hear the most about, Bluesky, brags about not having this. Maybe the Twitter experience varies by which topics you are interested in, you might get served more slop the more mainstream topics you follow. But the r…

BlueSky brags about not having what, exactly? Nazis?

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by phoronixrly »

meowface wrote: post #159
elAhmo wrote: post #70

Again, anyone still using Twitter should know they are contributing to the richest man in the world actively pushing to disrupt the core fabric of our society.

I fully agree with your stance on Elon but I simply find Twitter too useful for too many things to quit. I've tried Bluesky and although I am very left-leaning on sociocultural topics I just find them too... annoying over there. (I'm closer to neoliberal on economic topics and that's also a bit of an issue there. And I like AI and they pretty much all deeply hate AI.)

> I simply find Twitter too useful for too many things to quit

Like what precisely? Infosec twitter is gone, science twitter is long dead. Visiting my timeline in non-algorithmic mode yields a post from months ago. In algo mode it's just ads and rage-bait.

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by sd9 »

Retric wrote: post #165
sd9 wrote: post #154

This seems like a fairly reasonable UX improvement. Unless I'm missing anything, it doesn't seem like this has nefarious intent, it's just there so that when a user clicks a link, they see the content as quickly as possible. --- It's astonishing how quickly discussion disintegrates when Musk is mentioned on HN. He really is such a divisive figure, with incredibly polarised language both in support and against him. No…

Preloading links is often avoided because it creates a wide range of issues. Using up newspapers free stories a month on articles users never see etc. Speed just isn’t that useful by comparison. Incompetence is obviously still a possibility, but the likely intent overcoming such issues is to make X seem to generate more traffic and thus appear to be more relevant.

I hadn't considered this.

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by toyg »

nomdep wrote: post #96
robinhood wrote: post #66

I find it so sad that Twitter still gets traffic at all. Even if we put aside the super shady content on this platform (free speech, lol), the app, either on the web or mobile, has a sub-par user experience. I wish all the devs that I respect were using another platform.

The algorithm is a mirror: it show more of what you interact with. You see “shady content” because you pay attention to it. But you can also follow people and read only what they write, reply to them, and write yourself.

The discussion over X is always the same:

"It's gone to hell"

"No, it just reflects your tastes"

"That's objectively false: create a new account and see what happens."

"..."

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by the__alchemist »

nkohari wrote: post #126
robinhood wrote: post #66

I find it so sad that Twitter still gets traffic at all. Even if we put aside the super shady content on this platform (free speech, lol), the app, either on the web or mobile, has a sub-par user experience. I wish all the devs that I respect were using another platform.

There was a real attempt earlier this year to move to BlueSky, but it's become even worse than Twitter for different reasons. BlueSky's definitely gotten a lot of the technical side of things right (as compared to the fediverse, the complexity of which blocks mainstream adoption). Unfortunately, it's also now an incredibly unpleasant place to be unless you want to swim in constant political ragebait. Twitter also has…

I would try again, but not use discover, and aggressively mute/block.

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by toyg »

ndr wrote: post #170
bpavuk wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, there are platforms that did figure it out, but it's quite fractured. For US, you have Bluesky and Fediverse (Flipboard, Mastodon). In Ukraine, you can use Threads. Germany seems to love Bluesky and Mastodon, given the amount of independent Personal Data Servers and Mastodon instances located there.

Who is using Bluesky in the US? Whenever something big happens I keep getting x.com links from friends. Is it just my friends?

> Who is using Bluesky in the US?

A lot of writers and creatives who could not stomach X.com anymore (and were then likely burned by Mastodon's geekiness).

> Is it just my friends?

If your friends are in the right-wing sphere (e.g. Joe Rogan listeners, etc), then yeah, likely.

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by carlosjobim »

aldousd666 wrote: post #161

Nobody wants a damn web view. If I'm clicking off to a link, I may want to click to another app and back in and still be where it was... If it's in a webview that's gone as soon as I click out. Yes, you can open in Chrome or whatever, open in a browser, but that's a pain in the ass to do an the time. I hate web views, in all forms.

Why would the web view be gone after you've multi tasked? On my phone the web view stays open inside the parent app.

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by ojr »

jeroenhd wrote: post #132
ojr wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the webview messes up tokens and passwords managers so I don't see this happening. The US is too culturally different to have mega apps. In Asia their supermarkets also have a lot of information in the menu for example.

Replace "mega app" with "platform" and that's pretty much what Apple and Google are, Apple especially.

no I will not replace mega app with platform, WeChat app is totally different from the App Store.

In and Out has 5 menu items, similar to an app made in the USA, not too many features

A Chinese market can list 50 items similar to WeChat that has 50 different features.

The culture is reflected in the app design.

source: https://digitalcreative.cn/blog/how-china-ux-is-different

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by gloflo »

nalak wrote: post #150
thrance wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Open a private tab, navigate to x.com. All you see are heinous neonazis casually discussing the jewish question and fantasizing about race wars.

If you do that all you get is a login wall. Have you actually done this or is this what you imagine it to be?

Well, I can confirm that this is the case with a brand new account.
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