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First recording of a dying human brain shows waves similar to memory flashbacks (2022)

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Re: First recording of a dying human brain shows waves similar to memory flashbacks (2022)

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tirant wrote: post #48
baxtr wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So is it similar to dreaming? Also, what do you mean by "sound"? Like music or actual sound from your memories?

Part of it has to do with the memories, which gradually gets overtaken by the voices of my wife, doctor or whomever was trying to wake me up. As an example, I think I was around 16 years old and I was very much into sport cycling and Tour de France. When I lost consciousness a slide show of Tour de France competition accompanied by the TV commentators rush into my thoughts. All of it at very high speed and extremely…

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Re: First recording of a dying human brain shows waves similar to memory flashbacks (2022)

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Post by 6d6b73 »

What if that's the hell or heaven some of us were told about? If you live a good life, having it flashed in front of you could be a calming thing, but if you've been a person that caused lots of pain to other people, being reminded of it in the last few seconds of your life — that's a hellish experience. However, what if you've been a generally good person but were a subject of rape or some heinous crimes — having to relive that again... that's even worse than hell..

Re: First recording of a dying human brain shows waves similar to memory flashbacks (2022)

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Post by hn_acc1 »

ExoticPearTree wrote: post #52
Gooblebrai wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you share the link to that article?

Sorry, but it is something I read a while back. If I find it again and don't forget, I will share.

Maybe you just need the proper threat? :-)

Re: First recording of a dying human brain shows waves similar to memory flashbacks (2022)

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Post by btilly »

Llamamoe wrote: post #83
kakacik wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their life is shit already, that's why they act as they act, passing aggression on to others in vain effort to get rid of some of that 'evil' in them. I understand this knee-jerk reaction very well, but it just feeds the neverending spiral of aggression. We humans act like storage of both good and bad, it then comes back up in various situations. What I want to say - you just beating up a bully will mean some other k…

IIRC this is a misconception and bullies bully strategically to climb the social ladder and benefit from it. It's possible that they do it because they learned pathological systems of behaviour from pathological family/social experiences, but even if fighting back against them is also shitty, it beats enabling them to keep doing it (especially to you)

No, that is absolutely not a misconception, and is backed by peer reviewed research such as https://www.hks.harvard.edu/publications/why-stigmatized-ado....

What you may be thinking of is research showing that when kids get to know each other, the ones who will become socially dominant tend to be aggressive early. But once they achieve social status, they usually turn around and become far nicer. With further aggression limited to those who have not accepted their dominance.

The most common scenario for continued aggression is someone near the social bottom, who is attempting to reinforce that there is someone who is still firmly below them.

Re: First recording of a dying human brain shows waves similar to memory flashbacks (2022)

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Post by btilly »

exe34 wrote: post #58
kakacik wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their life is shit already, that's why they act as they act, passing aggression on to others in vain effort to get rid of some of that 'evil' in them. I understand this knee-jerk reaction very well, but it just feeds the neverending spiral of aggression. We humans act like storage of both good and bad, it then comes back up in various situations. What I want to say - you just beating up a bully will mean some other k…

> you just beating up a bully will mean some other kid(s) will get beaten up (or beaten up even more) further down the line oh you need to convince them that more beatings would be forthcoming if they step out of line again.

This idea is naively appealing, but is not backed up by research.

Closely related, corporal punishment results in kids who are more likely to try to get their way through violence. Though they'll also take care not to be caught doing so. This is one of the big reasons why psychologists argue against using corporal punishment.

Re: First recording of a dying human brain shows waves similar to memory flashbacks (2022)

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Post by seemaze »

lordnacho wrote: post #50
tirant wrote: post #15

I have lost consciousness several times in my life. Not a pleasurable experience specially as last time I did it because of such extreme pain that I thought I was passing away. However I have had always recollection of those seconds or minutes when I was unconscious: there was always an intense and quick succession of memories and images accompanied by sound. At some point the external sound from people trying to rea…

For contrast, when I was put under with propofol for surgery, there was nothing. I thought I would gently fall asleep, but it was actually extremely fast. It went from "tell me about your life" which the anesthetist uses to check your state to "oh so came here for uni..." to "huh the surgery is over" in a single cut. Nothing in between, nothing like that thing you feel when before you fall asleep at night or wake up…

My first time I remember the anesthesiologist asking me to count backwards from 100. I assumed the process would take 30 to 60 seconds. I don't think I even hit 97..

Re: First recording of a dying human brain shows waves similar to memory flashbacks (2022)

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Post by avh02 »

lordnacho wrote: post #50
tirant wrote: post #15

I have lost consciousness several times in my life. Not a pleasurable experience specially as last time I did it because of such extreme pain that I thought I was passing away. However I have had always recollection of those seconds or minutes when I was unconscious: there was always an intense and quick succession of memories and images accompanied by sound. At some point the external sound from people trying to rea…

For contrast, when I was put under with propofol for surgery, there was nothing. I thought I would gently fall asleep, but it was actually extremely fast. It went from "tell me about your life" which the anesthetist uses to check your state to "oh so came here for uni..." to "huh the surgery is over" in a single cut. Nothing in between, nothing like that thing you feel when before you fall asleep at night or wake up…

Had the same experience, what scared the crap out of me is that feeling of not even knowing you're out is how some people spend their last moment.

Not just in surgery for example but in extreme other situations (nukes, titan sub, piano to the head, etc)... You're just there then you aren't and you don't even know. Shook me (lightly) for a while

Re: First recording of a dying human brain shows waves similar to memory flashbacks (2022)

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Post by technothrasher »

hn_acc1 wrote: post #90
yolo3000 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've also lost it, around ~10 times so far. Never have any dreams or flashbacks. Just before passing out, I realize what's going to happen, but it's often too late. I only have a terrible headache afterwards.

10 times? Wow.. That seems like a lot.. AFAIK, even once is indication of potentially serious trauma.

I've passed out about that many times in my life as well. I'm very sensitive to dehydration and it can sneak up on me and drop my blood pressure enough that down I go. Happens maybe once every five to six years.

I don't have any crazy memories when I'm out. But coming back to, I always feel like there's something I just can't remember, it's just out of reach, at the tip of my tongue... and then my sight comes back and I can place where I am, but it feels like I've been gone for a very long time and am returning to the past, and then everything snaps in place and I'm back to normal.

Being put under with anesthetic feels very different. With that, I simply pop out and then pop back in.

Re: First recording of a dying human brain shows waves similar to memory flashbacks (2022)

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Post by 2OEH8eoCRo0 »

ExoticPearTree wrote: post #30

I read an article a while back, than when something really bad happens to the body, the brain looks back into memories to "see" how to solve the problem - maybe it happened before and it will know what to do (like when you cut yourself the second time, you know exactly what to do). But because it never encountered something like it, it cannot find a solution. And apparently this is why people when they die see their…

I always figured it's cerebral death spasms which will cause experiences encoded to those patterns or neurons.
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